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    This bad feeling was NOT a publicity stunt for dM!!!!! Things truly *were* bad between Martin and Dave. There were thoughts of lawsuits earlier this summer. Martin was NOT happy about Dave's use of dM songs in his solo show. Martin and Fletch were genuinely hurt by Dave's behavior. If it was a stunt for Dave's album, then it failed miserably.

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    I want to make a bet..

    I bet that Dave will write at least 1 to 3 songs for the next record.. It will be in the l.p or b-side...

    If I lose this bet, I will not go to the next DM tour concert....
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    I am sorry, but I still disagree with you, Mark. Martin will NOT allow Dave to contribute a song unless he works on his writing. I highly doubt that either would feel comfortable having Martin collaborate with Dave. Dave is too insecure and Martin hates confrontation, which would probably ensue if Dave did bring something up. I can just see it now, and it wouldn't be pretty.

    Ya need to go to the next tour. You will regret it if you miss it.

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    But Marting WILL give in and let Dave have a go at a song. It'll turn up as a b-side. No one will care, but we will still have had this argument AGAIN.
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    I don't think that he would even allow Dave a b side. Remember the infamous Ocean Song from Ultra?? It never appeared on any dM album, nor Dave's for that matter. Dave really doesn't have talent in the lyrics department.

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    I don't give a flizzle who writes the songs, as long as they move me.

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    they better sign something before things get weird between them again

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    Originally posted by synth-master


    THIS IS MY OPINION

    I completely agree. DM does not exist without Alan for me.
    Glad to see I'm not the only one to think that. Alan brought this famous dimension to DM's music. For me, he was the real musician of the band, he was the master of sound.
    'Ultra' was still excellent though but 'Exciter', no comment and no offence to all the people who like it of course, this is just my opinion.
    As I already said in another thread, I really miss DM's good old electronic sound, in other words I really miss Alan's contribution.
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    Cheating your mind\'s ache
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    Seek what you want or think that you need
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    well, alan used to contribute songs to albums and b-sides but gave it up b/c in his words, "it's not something that came naturally (to me)." and based on martin's needing to be pushed to write songs for the last album, i could see him letting dave have a crack at a b-side (but nothing more). at this point, i just hope martin is in more of a mood to write and not feel pressured to do so for the next album. i also hope they feel a little more experimental this time around.

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    This is what would make me a happy camper:

    1. Alan Wilder returns.
    2. Someone steels all of Martin's guitars giving him no choice but to use stricktly electronc instruments.
    3. Dave is forbidden to write any songs for the CD.

    There's no need for them to sound just like they did in the past. Im open to new sounds and direction. As long as these three wishes were met, I think that there would be a good chance for a great album. Unfortunately, I don't think theres any chance that any of the 3 will happen.

    Rich

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    you guys are stickin in 88'!! c'mon-just love and adore the past.
    I fuccckin jump up and down every time "Now this is Fun" is on.
    "Photographic", "Behind the Wheel", "Personal Jesus". Yeah-these are the staples of synth rock-electronic music. But! They've done that-Alan's doing great artsy stuff w/ Recoil-Dave has written an album (not that good, okay) and Martin's as good as ever. (well, maybe his runnin low on ideas lyrically). As for the bleeps and bloops of Exciter, I like it. Because it was the Mode. Not amazing, but when they put out an album, I say. "Oh, those three cool dudes spent time in a studio and made an album , of probably good stuff. Sweet, I'll buyt it. And there's no one album I cannot stand of them. Every album I could take alisten to. Sometimes I skip, but i usually don't.

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    Originally posted by NJOberheim
    This is what would make me a happy camper:

    1. Alan Wilder returns.
    2. Someone steels all of Martin's guitars giving him no choice but to use stricktly electronc instruments.
    3. Dave is forbidden to write any songs for the CD.

    There's no need for them to sound just like they did in the past. Im open to new sounds and direction. As long as these three wishes were met, I think that there would be a good chance for a great album. Unfortunately, I don't think theres any chance that any of the 3 will happen.

    Rich
    I'm definitely open to new sounds and direction as well but I don't know, I mean, DM's new songs don't "touch" me as much as their old ones do. There's something missing. I could feel it again with 'Ultra' but not anymore with 'Exciter'. But I still do believe in them though and still have faith in their awesome talent.
    As for the solo's, DM are better united. (Alan included)
    For me DM is 4 and not 3.

    PS: Please people, don't throw things at me, I'm just being honest and claiming my opinion. Peace. lol
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    Don't worry vjay, I agree 100% with you. The last time I was touched by DM was back in the Violator days. Your right, they've had good stuff since then but just not true DM. Whenever i talk like that on EGN though, I always get accused of living in the 80's, not letting a band grow, blah, blah, blah. It's not that I want them to release a Black Celebration clone or anything like that. I just want the quality of their music to come back up to where it was.

    Rich

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    Depeche Mode should take a lesson from AND ONE. AND ONE decided to try and make an album that could be a follow up to their best album I.S.T. Aggressor does sound like a follow up to me. Many of the songs are in the same vein. So Depeche need to figure out what was their prime and at the very least try to emulate that on a few tracks. They can be experimental on a few too but why not try to use their old tried and true formula? If they want to gain more exposure and more fans then they should do what they do best (which was not done on Exciter IMO).

    Techpo

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    Well, Martin does speak German, so he could write an album in German.

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    Originally posted by conditioner
    oh my god, pop didn't say anything bad about the mode!!!!

    who knew!!!!! holy shizzl-6 million copies of the 12" I have that- is it the one with the pump mix?
    I have two. One with 2 different versions of Dangerous.

    Originally posted by VJay


    Glad to see I'm not the only one to think that. Alan brought this famous dimension to DM's music. For me, he was the real musician of the band, he was the master of sound.
    'Ultra' was still excellent though but 'Exciter', no comment and no offence to all the people who like it of course, this is just my opinion.
    As I already said in another thread, I really miss DM's good old electronic sound, in other words I really miss Alan's contribution.
    Believe it or not... quoting Daniel Miller... It was Alan Wilder's idea to make "Enjoy the Silence" a dance song from a ballad.
    Just want to inform all the repetitive "Enjoy the Silence" fans.
    www.myspace.com/pswk
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    www.myspace.com/youngjoon (Breaks)
    www.myspace.com/grep (IDM)
    www.myspace.com/requiemnoise (Industrial)

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    \"why is it feel like a greatful dead show here? like that hippe that constantly talks about one band and how they changed their lives.\"

    PLEASE NO MORE \"I am a robot music.\" You are not a robot. Learn to program better like human beings.\"

    Electro is House music. If you don\'t like House music, please don\'t put down Electro, because it is trendy to say it. It might suprise you that Electro and House music were invented by Gay Black Americans in the mid 80s. They weren\'t invented by the beatless people who like to coin new trendy phrases.

    I am so tired of \"I want to be Depeche Mode or Erasure for the last 25 years.\" I hope I am not the only one. 25 years is a quarter of century and about a 1/3 of human life. If a person spends a 1/3 of his or her life having the same tastes, I don\'t know if that person acquired enough information to have an interesting life or has a problem understanding he or she is no longer a teenager.

    So called artists who never change, why do you call yourself an artist again?

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    "Believe it or not... quoting Daniel Miller... It was Alan Wilder's idea to make "Enjoy the Silence" a dance song from a ballad.
    Just want to inform all the repetitive "Enjoy the Silence" fans."


    that's true. Martin Gore had it as an organ piece with no percussion. Very interesting. never cared for the enjoy the silence b-sides like mephisto and kaleid.

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    That's why everything matters in the song packaging....
    Just want to inform you all that song itself is nothing without the seasoning... People soon get sick of taste of beef if you only thing you can do is grill or bake it. Good music is more than a good song.. Marketing, views, idealism, hair color, clothes, personalities,
    money, hate, love, production, performance, where the song was recorded, acoustic in the recording room, etc etc etc..... MUSIC is mysterious. TASTE is more mysterious. People already wrote many research thesis about the POP music in many University...
    The conclusion for most part is not predictable to 100% success ratio. Always other variables counted. So what to do? ALWAYS TAKE A RISK and HOPE FOR THE BEST...
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    \"There is no abstract art. You must always start with something. Afterward you can remove all traces of reality.\"
    - Pablo Picasso

    \"The world only goes round by misunderstanding.\"
    - Charles Baudelaire

    \"It is quality, not quantity.\"

    \"why is it feel like a greatful dead show here? like that hippe that constantly talks about one band and how they changed their lives.\"

    PLEASE NO MORE \"I am a robot music.\" You are not a robot. Learn to program better like human beings.\"

    Electro is House music. If you don\'t like House music, please don\'t put down Electro, because it is trendy to say it. It might suprise you that Electro and House music were invented by Gay Black Americans in the mid 80s. They weren\'t invented by the beatless people who like to coin new trendy phrases.

    I am so tired of \"I want to be Depeche Mode or Erasure for the last 25 years.\" I hope I am not the only one. 25 years is a quarter of century and about a 1/3 of human life. If a person spends a 1/3 of his or her life having the same tastes, I don\'t know if that person acquired enough information to have an interesting life or has a problem understanding he or she is no longer a teenager.

    So called artists who never change, why do you call yourself an artist again?

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    I am still looking forward to the new album because no matter what they do I always find something about it that touches me in some sort of way, even if it's just a little. DM has had an impact on a lot of our lives and I think that's why we expect sooo much from them. Anyway, I agree with blitzman. Feeling pressured is not feeling passioned. Force is fierce.

    Originally posted by Stephanie
    Well, Martin does speak German, so he could write an album in German.
    Interesting idea.
    \"The truth is that there is no truth.\"

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    Originally posted by blitzman
    well, alan used to contribute songs to albums and b-sides but gave it up b/c in his words, "it's not something that came naturally (to me)." and based on martin's needing to be pushed to write songs for the last album, i could see him letting dave have a crack at a b-side (but nothing more). at this point, i just hope martin is in more of a mood to write and not feel pressured to do so for the next album. i also hope they feel a little more experimental this time around.
    Well, it all depends on how you would define experimental. Martin has a very eclectic taste in music. He prides himself on djing things that no one has ever heard before. He seems to be into the blips and clicks phase right now. I like that sound too, but I know many dM fans who do not. If he does something wildly experimental and dM fans don't like it, there will be lots of complaining. I know that he will come up with something that will satisfy me. He did with Exciter.

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