Spinning Trance and Synth/Future Pop

[~skyborg12]

Hey DJ's/performers

I love both the club/rave world and the synthpop world. Has anyone had a lot of success bringing some of the synth/future pop world to the bigger club/rave world?

Just curious.

[~rustcwc]

I was actually wondering the same thing myself....i hear a lot of future pop/synthpop songs and think how well they would go over in that environment...i think a lot of it would flow really well and possibly introduce people to a whole new world of music..just my two cents...

[~pop]

They don't mix well... because Goth kids hate Clubbers.
Clubbers say Futurepop is way too dark for their taste.
Clubbers don't like how Goth people are dressed.
I go out to different clubs all the time. I have different outfits, makeup, and how I style my hair for different nights.
Club DJs say Synthpop has way too much
verse/chorus structure that aren't dance friendly for Trance people. Most Trance people today are Melodic Trance listeners . It is considered
commercial music and based around regular people. It is no longer an underground movement except PsyTrance.
If you do some search on EGN. I think we beat this topic to death last year.
Those scenes aren't going to merge. Some people tried and they failed. Oddly enough, few VnV remixes got played by few Trance DJ sets, because rhythm was changed according to that scene.

[~skyborg12]

The main reason I ask is because when I was in Germany last year in November I went to a club that is ran by Talla 2XLC in Frankfurt. www.bostich.net Not only does Talla play there all the time but so does Paul Van Dyke. They slapped down Mesh, De/Vision, and VNV in their sets. The crowd loved it too, and these were German club kids, not Synth Pop fest goers.

So I was just wondering everyone's two bits

Here in SLC house is really commercialized and Trance just sort of disappeared.

[~pop]

If you like different types of music, the best thing to do is go to different nights and listen to different sets of music. I tried to make one promoter cater to all different various music, but failed.

Electro movement is becoming more diverse, but they hate Trance with a passion. You might hear some House, Techno, New Wave mixed with Electroclash.

You have to understand people still look for identity in music.
They still want music to create their inner personality. You can't eacape it. If a person doesn't like how some type of people are dressed and act, that person will avoid all their group's passion.
You can't avoid it. They arebasic human condition and cycle that people can't kill.

When you want to merge various scenes. You should base more on types of personalities and fashion than beat orientation.
Like Downtempo can merge with DnB. DnB listeners are modern
urban youth who kind of look and act like hihopers and ravers.

Trance like to stay by itself. Maybe, happy futurepop with less lyrics can be added in.

Techno and House were merged when TechHouse was invented.
In comercial Techno and House world, they can't mingle because commercial House has that R&B flavor. Lots of Ravers hate R&B, but House is
a huge scene. Some dark unground stuff can be mixed in with various other scene such as Electroclash and EBM.

It is all very confusing...

That's why people invented Electronica.
It is the other non categorized white meat with the pop flavor, but
most Electronica doesn't get stuck in the club scene. It is usually promoted by mid and major size labels.

[~NullDevice]

In my experience, it's easier to mix trance into a futurepop/synthpop set than it is the other way around. Most of the electro-kids can at least tolerate trance.

On a few club nights, breakbeat and dnb have wormed their way into mostly synthpop/ebm nights and are even requested sometimes.

[~paxyll]

Saturday nights at the Vogue (Seattlr, WA) seems to do this fairly well. Evean (DJ) mixes future-pop, techno, new-wave and ebm/industrial faily seemlessly. If it weren't for the slightly meatmarket atmosphere of that night (other nights are not like that there), I'd attend more regularly...

[~binaryzero]

i'd say DJ Lazarus' Darkrave's work out pretty well.

you get all types of people at this monthy event: goths, rivets, ravers, those wacky whistle candy ravers even ravers hate, preppies, etc.

every type or stereotype you can think of all dancing and having a great time in harmony, almost sounds utopian?

last one i went to was after the Funker show in Toronto

it was funny to see a basic hard trance track mix over into E-Craft, i was totally expecting your "normal" humans to leave as the vocals kicked in. not only did they not leave, they kept the same energy and kept dancing.

needless to say i love Toronto...