calling all weirdo musicians

[~pop]

What happen to all the Post Synthpop musicians?
Remember the discussion about the new genera?
Are we all working on them?

[~conditioner]

I'm workin on my band w/ little bro. We're called "The Condition".
Doing a live techno set on the 4th of July @ house party.
The band itself is more synth rock/electro hip hop. Lot's of bluesy guitars and atmospheres. That's the best we can describe it. How's about you?

[~arronc]

Hey pop !

Yeah : been real busy finishing mixing the album. It will be definately post synthpop electro.

We have built special audio mixing technology, so no more summing of audio signals for us ! "Always On Top Audio rules" !

Musicwise, weve gone back to the roots of electronic music, and use plenty of electronic non-synth sources.

Finished the first run of mixing last week, just touching up the editing now : what about you ?

[~KissTheStar]

work work work work

[~pop]

OK FREAKOES.
LET'S GET FREAKY.

WORD UP TO OUR WEIRDNESS

[~Kirlian Blue]

ermmmm bloody adat machine.............!!!!!!!!!!!!! The demoing bits over at last so were proably more electro/industrial/cyber punk crap ...with what we've got so far

[~pop]

Think diversity.
This scene is laughed by other scenes.
No bull shi.t. You don't know how many other Electronicheads
assume this scene is made up by pantsy songwriters and producers. Yes, pantsy love song makers. Underground kids don't want to be known for being pantsy. You got two choices. Join the other side or make a difference. There are way too many FLA and A23 clones now. That is a wrong direction. DEAD END DIRECTION with THE shrinking FUTURE.
English and Americans must use our traditional signatures. You need to get little more funky. DnB/Trance/Breaks/High Energy/MadChester - UK native born. House/Techno/Electro/Disco/RocknRoll/Blues/Glam - American Born. Try to add another famous electronic genera in there.

We need to show more funkies, weirdness, have more punk and dance attitudes. We have to move forward.
DON'T THINK DM, DE/VISION, MESH, 86 to 95, FLUFFY LOVE, and other *standard* vanilla music in your collection. Fu.ck giving people boring crap. Would you want to get fame from being a famous clone band? You want to hear, you sound just like Mesh? THINK SEX, FU.CKING, noise, art, crap, attitude, taking a shi.t, 60s to 83, experimental,
women's ass (have to make them move), POP, ODDNESS, youth,
and respect.

IF WE DON'T MAKE SOME CHANGES NOW, THIS GENERA WILL BE CALLED the DEAD GENERA.

[~Kirlian Blue]

I mean I ve ben listening to a lot of Clinton,Grandmaster Flash,Bambatta ...also Donna Summer's also on the other end been listening to Pink Floydd which were totally out there hope i can use some things i've learnt from these artists in my music ..!

[~arronc]

Errm :

With respect pop : it not about assimilating dance genres. Its about finding your own voice.

The problem is not that the genre is disrespected : it is that that are "too many soundalikes" (not my words)

All rock sounds the same to me, being as it is just guitars, drums and vocals.

In the underground rock scene, as much as the underground electronic scene, there are are wealth of bands who enjoy making music, and have reached a level of compitance with recording, but have nothing new to say.

The bottom line is that a "Im so sad and alone"/"boy meets girl" songs where the vocal just follows the chord structure are everywhere. Even in EBM having a shout about some stereotypical EBM theme "World is against me"/ "you dont understand" / "i want to be dead" is as bad.

Of the total number of people who can be a me too synth band/ ebm band/ guitar band, there are very few who can make a song that will touch people emotionally.

When electronic music started out, it was with the aim that you could make any sound you wanted to. How on earth it got to the state its in now where everyone sounds the same is just lack of knowing what to do to make an emotional impact, and relying on what has been done before.

The people who are making original touching music dont always get the respect they deserve, and as you say, clip art synthpop specialists tend to get the attention round here.

So its striking a balance, knowing what to say, how to say it, being yourself, not retreading old ground that will make a difference in my opinion.

[~Daft Monk]

Originally posted by arronc
Errm :

When electronic music started out, it was with the aim that you could make any sound you wanted to. How on earth it got to the state its in now where everyone sounds the same is just lack of knowing what to do to make an emotional impact, and relying on what has been done before.

.

Well said.

[~pop]

With all respect. I agree. It is not copying the dance world.
I really want respect to be place in this scene.
Yes, it is not about catering to everyone.
It is not about pursing an image.
You brought up a very interesting word, "emotions."
When lots of people think emotions, people think about distress of emotions. The pain. I shouldn't be the one to judge.
I have been written lots of depressing words in my songs,
which I am really trying hard to escape them.
Of couse, there are many other wonderful emotions.
Maybe, lots of us are not thinking about other emotions.
There are more to life than LOVE, HATE, HURT, SHAME,
and other predictable basic human emotions.
You are right.
Being truthful is the key. I agree everything you have said below.
Maybe, all of us need to think more before we write.
We need to be more selective and thoughful with each new ideas.

Originally posted by arronc
Errm :

With respect pop : it not about assimilating dance genres. Its about finding your own voice.

The problem is not that the genre is disrespected : it is that that are "too many soundalikes" (not my words)

All rock sounds the same to me, being as it is just guitars, drums and vocals.

In the underground rock scene, as much as the underground electronic scene, there are are wealth of bands who enjoy making music, and have reached a level of compitance with recording, but have nothing new to say.

The bottom line is that a "Im so sad and alone"/"boy meets girl" songs where the vocal just follows the chord structure are everywhere. Even in EBM having a shout about some stereotypical EBM theme "World is against me"/ "you dont understand" / "i want to be dead" is as bad.

Of the total number of people who can be a me too synth band/ ebm band/ guitar band, there are very few who can make a song that will touch people emotionally.

When electronic music started out, it was with the aim that you could make any sound you wanted to. How on earth it got to the state its in now where everyone sounds the same is just lack of knowing what to do to make an emotional impact, and relying on what has been done before.

The people who are making original touching music dont always get the respect they deserve, and as you say, clip art synthpop specialists tend to get the attention round here.

So its striking a balance, knowing what to say, how to say it, being yourself, not retreading old ground that will make a difference in my opinion.

[~arronc]

POP : Well then it seems you and me are on the same wavlength !

I dont want want this to turn into some songwriters forum : let get back to analogue vs digital ! LOL

Respect.

[~pop]

I love absynth and fm7.
DIGITAL!!!!
I still have some analogs in my closet. I never use it now.
Right now, I am 100% virtual.
I love it. It is so freaking flexible.
DIGITAL BABY!!!!

[~cliffwalk]

Originally posted by pop
What happen to all the Post Synthpop musicians?
Remember the discussion about the new genera?
Are we all working on them?

Seriously... and actually... YES... I haven't "released" (as in put something new on Ampcast :) in 3-4 months. I have an entire new sound I've been working on that's totally back to my experimental side... "Generation Moron" and "Plastic Basket" were both getting closer but they were written in an awkward fashion.

What I'm doing differently this time is I'm making these HUGE experimental sound ideas and then editting the living &^%$ out of them until I can use it in a rather standard song format. I like the results I'm getting... hopefully I'll have something new within the month.

It's probably NOT dance-floor-friendly but it appeals to my tastes... it may end up appealing to others... either way I'm glad I finally gave up trying to be "Synthpoppy"... Ironically NOW my stuff does sound a bit Synthpoppy, just not on purpose.

Dave

[~arronc]

Hey Cliffy : do you have lyrics for Plastic Basket ? It sounds really interesting on WXJL2 but I can quite make out some of the words.

[~cliffwalk]

here ya go...

plastic basket

VERSE:

every lie has a silver lining
to protect it from the ugly truth
i like to treat my failing pulse
as tragedies from my youth
we fought the fields in viet nam
even though we were not born yet
just hippies in a different time
struggling not to forget

the weeds we smoked to forget the time
was cheaper than a counselor
10 years later we're afraid of cars
still looking for an answer
we like to blame our bleeding wrists
on the kindness of a stranger
no one told us where to go
to flush out all the anger

CHORUS:

i'd like to propose a toast
to the man who knows the most
standing next to a famous ghost -- afraid to ask it
how can i get all my baggage to fit in the plastic basket

VERSE:

here we are in a different world
the futures right behind us
i know i have some courage left but
my fear is piled in surplus
reagan told me long ago
to act out like a patriot
saving all my money to fill
his stainless glassy casket

BRIDGE:

we can't get back the 80s
we can't get back the revolution
we can't get back the 90s
we can't turn back the evolution

OUTRO:

why do you have to rip and task it
everything fits in a plastic basket
if you don't know you cannot ask it
everything fits in a plastic basket
why do you have to rip and task it
everything fits in a plastic basket
don't be sneaky and try to mask it
put all your stuff in my plastic basket

[~platformone]

well - so much for Platform one's 'Tupperware casket'.
and my references to bangles and other wrist gaskets...
-sorry i couldn't resist.

[~JennVix]

"Pre" and Fabulous: Suicide (Alan Vega & Martin Rev)

Indeed...

[~intro]

I'm up to my ears producing the new E:Moderne single. Looks like the band name might change though. It's all in Spanish now, and the sound is a bit different.

I'm also working on remixes. Cosmicity's "In Flight" is the next one I've got in the works. Expecting the vocals to arrive tomorrow, but I've already been sketching out ideas in Cubase.

As for making my own music, who knows. I wrote a new song about two weeks ago, demoed it and have left it for dead. Working on a cover of "Some Distant Memory" for a New Order tribute (played this live recently too, went over well). Got too much other stuff going on to work on my own material. Maybe after I move in October I'll find a little time.

-Mark
www.djintrovert.com

[~never]

YES! Strive to advance! Strike up the digital band! I think its so important to make the attempt to get out of ruts and stylistic coffins. The only thing is we will always show our history, roots and influences in some way. And listeners seek reference points through comparisson to their own history so being a singer I have been compared to too many different people for me to feel like a copy - Sarah M, Kate Bush, Venus Hum. It just shows the listeners reference points. (Plus: all of comparissons are a load of crap cause I don't think I sound like any of them) but this just shows people map their reality onto things so that the new is not so new..not so unfamiliar and fear driving and hence rejectable.

Also dwelling on the Fringe sometimes gets blackholed into the popular rather quickly if for some reason it gets swallowed up in popular. Then we label it as uncool and start again.

At the moment we are working up to our release in January but I can't seem to find a genre that we fit in directly so I dunno...maybe we are synth pop. Its sort of industrial without the devil man voice. I guess I will wait and see what you lot think. I will post the website link soon.

-neony

[~scuba_cop]

"Pre" and Fabulous: Suicide (Alan Vega & Martin Rev)

Indeed...
jenvixx

OMG!!!! you are the first person ive ever encountered on the sight to ever mention alan vega and martin rev...ever...

i know my profile says im new here but im not im an avid lurker and a former alternate member from a while ago (i lost my account because of inactivity)...in fact i was kinda well known, but forget that I cant believe someone is still acknowledging alan vega's work.......

i model all my music off of two things: alan vega/suicide...and space shooter video game music...

[~Quixote Chapter]

Qchapter is now electronic rock. Check out qchapter.com to get a taste. Our lyrics have always been a bit left of center, though. We have tracks about the loss of insecurity, cult leaders, and nomadic living. Definatly not your typical synthpop love tunes.

-Kevin

[~atomico]

What is synthpop anyways? Is this some type of new electronica genre? I cant even find the definition in the acidplanet.com glossary or genres ;), is it like.. techno/pop or sumthin?

[~scuba_cop]

my definition is pop music/songs that exploits the sound of a synthesizer..simple...

[~Lisa]

Hey,
Hi all.
Any you folks heard "Elaex"?
Some guy called Laz and the guitarist from Sigue Sigue Sputnik?
Or
"Mace" is another with Laz and the guitarist from Adam and the Ants
heard the tracks on streaming radio
Radio209
They sounded a great combination-now I want to hear more.
Anybody else heard any of this stuff?

Lisa

[~ericrypt]

what is synthpop? It's good music. The only music for me!