Movies!!!

[~pop]

What is good artsy movies for myself and others for Christmas gift?

NO HOLLYWOOD BULL SHI*..
THANK U.

[~devapor]

Plan 9 from outer space
bride of the monster
glen or glenda

[~interface2x]

You can't go wrong with Requiem For a Dream. Or Run Lola Run.

And depending on your view of Hollywood Bull¤¤¤¤, I also recommend The Royal Tennenbaums. The saddest funny movie I know.

[~rivetbadtz]

Waking Life
Amelie
City of Lost Children
Donnie Darko
pi


Films you *shouldnt* buy someone unless you dont like them^)^

Julien Donkey Boy
Gummo
Freddy Got Fingered
Bully
Happiness

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by devapor
Plan 9 from outer space
bride of the monster
glen or glenda

Right on! HAHAHAHA
..and they just released a DVD boxset of these classics....eerrr..can they be considered classics? :)

[~Bornslippy]

Any of you folks seen "Life is a House" damn that movie is soooo sooooo saaaadddddd, maybe the saddest movie I'd ever seen. It made me cry(ahem)...

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by Bornslippy
Any of you folks seen "Life is a House" damn that movie is soooo sooooo saaaadddddd, maybe the saddest movie I'd ever seen. It made me cry(ahem)...

Is it sadder then "Dancer in the Dark"?
That ones considered artsy right?
Yeah...I'll admit it, I shed a tear, or two or 20 at the end of "Dancer in the Dark". Then again, I think it has a bigger impact on parents. Being one, it was overwhelming.

[~Destral]

Memento (althought not really artsty)
Amelie
Run Lola Run (lola rennt)
Donnie Darko (not really artsy either)

[~siv]

good recommendations here... anything jeunet and caro is always good. city of lost children, delicatessen, etc. Anything David Lynch is pretty good too (Blue Velvet, Wild at Heart, Mulholland Dr., among others). I think Cube is a pretty interesting movie for something sci fi, though not really artsy...

Pi is like the definition artsy film, but I enjoyed it mostly, though Requiem for a Dream is better.

[~rivetbadtz]

Oh are we talking super artsy 'what the heck am I watching'?
Well then...

testsuo the iron man
begotten
jan svankmajer's alice
the secret adventures of tom thumb
the brothers quay: ten astonishing shorts
tokyo fist
eraserhead
pi

And Im so glad David Lynch got mentioned! He's gotta be one of my favorite directors. My fave film of his is the Straight Story(I know, Disney, G rated...but it r0x!) Eraserhead, Lost Highway, and Mulholland Drive(I mean what can I say about a film that contains a gorilla suit man in a Denny's dumpster, a parapalegic midget, body swapping lez action,a cryptic cowboy, and a blue box that holds it all?)

Now as far as films that make me tear up? Hmmmm...
That's a tough one. I'd say maybe Edward Scissorhands(toward the end), and this one scene in One Hour Photo.

Finally, as far as films that might not be considered super artsy, but that to me blow me away with astonishing visuals:

The Cell
Koyaanisqatsi
Being John Malkovich
Avalon(2000, Japanese)
What Dreams May Come

[~pop]

You guys have suggested very nice choices. Most of them I have seen and forgot all about. Classic movies never get dull.

[~Destral]

Originally posted by siv
good recommendations here... anything jeunet and caro is always good. city of lost children, delicatessen, etc. Anything David Lynch is pretty good too (Blue Velvet, Wild at Heart, Mulholland Dr., among others). I think Cube is a pretty interesting movie for something sci fi, though not really artsy...

Pi is like the definition artsy film, but I enjoyed it mostly, though Requiem for a Dream is better.


It should be noted David Lynch films are some of the worst, unexplainable flicks ever. Their soul purpose is to include nude/lesbian scenes with the leading ladies (and men in some case).

I think Mr. Cranky says it best in this review of Mulholland Drive:

Four words: hot naked lesbian sex. Let me explain exactly how this got into "Mulholland Drive." This film was originally a television series pilot that David Lynch made and presented to TV executives, who viewed the thing and didn't have the slightest idea what to make of it because they're stupid and Lynch is a freak. They handed it back and said "no thanks", and Lynch promptly went off and turned it into a feature film by adding the hot naked lesbian sex. He figured if he was going to make a feature-length film, he might as well get the lead actresses to disrobe. This is David Lynch in a nutshell.
In "Blue Velvet," he wanted to see Isabella Rossellini naked, so he wrote some preposterous scene where she runs around naked. In "Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me," he wanted to see Sheryl Lee and Moira Kelly naked, so he concocted orgy scenes. In "Lost Highway" he got Patricia Arquette to strip. And, of course, let's not forget the Mr. Penis swinging dance number performed by Richard Farnsworth in "The Straight Story" -- something of an anomaly, yes, but still Lynchian.

The only reason David Lynch makes movies is for the naked people. You can tell the exact point in "Mulhalland Drive" where Lynch added footage that wasn't included in the television version, because the previously unidentifiable attraction between Betty (Naomi Watts) and Rita (Laura Harring) turns into full-blown naked lesbianism exactly 86 minutes in.

[~pop]

What's wrong with sex? I rather see unusal sex scenes than see Tom Cruise make love to another hot hollywood stars. Everyone has deep hidden sexuality he or she is afraid to discuss. He speaks freely with his film. I always like people who are not shamed to hide their views.

[~Destral]

Oh thats bull¤¤¤¤. He doesn't speak freely with his film. The film is secondary...actually I dont even think its secondary. He throws a bunch of crap together and then adds sex scenes.

Absolutely nothing is wrong with sex. It's the greatest thing ever. I am willing to forgive the fact that Mulholland Drive was excruciatingly bad just because of that scene 86 minutes into the film.

=)

[~Hajas]

Hey, a fantastic brazilian movie that will start to play on the cinemas out there in january is "City of God" (Cidade de Deus).

This is a real history about how the drug's war start here in Rio, from 60's to 80's.

"Training Day" seams like a joke if compared with the brazilian truth.

Aside is very violenty, is very funny too. Really worth! very different than almost brazilian movies that almost are really bad. :)

Freddy

[~platformone]

"the cook the thief his wife and her lover"
"Donnie Darko"
"The Adventures of Baron Munchausen"
"The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari"

My picks ....

I have agreed with most of the previous postings.. except - 'dancer in the dark' a dreadfully boring film, just when you think it couldn't drag on any longer - it does... I grabbed the remote and fast forwarded a bit without even asking the person I saw it with and they sighed " thank god." to each thier own - opinions are like elbows but... wow... I wouldn't wish that movie on my exwife. footnote... the music is occasionally interesting - but others try to sing like bjork - thats just bad.

ON the plus side... - for an odd lil holiday film - watch "the hudsucker proxy" with Tim Robbins...

me and my opinion... are out.

[~Tim_BNI]

Probably one of the most brilliant and disturbing films I can offer up for you is "Hate" by Mathieu Kassovitz. It's in French with subtitles and it's in black & white, but don't let that stop you. It's like a f..ed up John Hughes film about a night in the life of three hip hop thug friends from a ghetto outside of Paris. It is my personal all-time favorite film!

[~rivetbadtz]

Originally posted by Tim_BNI
Probably one of the most brilliant and disturbing films I can offer up for you is "Hate" by Mathieu Kassovitz. It's in French with subtitles and it's in black & white, but don't let that stop you. It's like a f..ed up John Hughes film about a night in the life of three hip hop thug friends from a ghetto outside of Paris. It is my personal all time favorite film!

Hey I saw that. It kind of reminded me of Cafe au lat. Im a sucker for French films, heh.

I wanna see more lists of some of the most obscure, out there films they've seen!

[~pop]

I LOVE FRENCH FILMS.... It makes want to hate America....
I will look for it online... thugs and french coffee.... ALRIGHT....
any cool breads involved?

[~rivetbadtz]

Originally posted by pop
I LOVE FRENCH FILMS.... It makes want to hate America....
I will look for it online... thugs and french coffee.... ALRIGHT....
any cool breads involved?

I think out of all the foreign films Ive seen, a bulk majority happen to be French. My favorite ones would be:

Amelie(of course)
With a Friend Like Harry(What About Bob? meets Psycho)
The Eighth Day(one of only a few films to make me cry)
City of Lost Children
Toto le Hero

However, one French film I do not reccomend is
Baise Moi. The only thing shocking or controversial about this one is how lame it is.

[Avil]

After going through your recommendations I've rented Storyteller and Lost Highway. Now these movies better be good, or else....

;)

[~amyagogo]

SInce this was dug up:

Titus
Sex & Lucia
Topsy Turvy

all movies with stunning visuals that immediately came to mind when i reread this thread...

[~conditioner]

La Haine is one of the best French Films out there.

More artsy stuff POP-you have to if you havent already seen it
Ce Arrives Prez de Chez Vous ----or "Man Bites Dog" One of the most distubing, violent, hilarious, well done films out there.

Amelie
La Femme Nikita
Toto Le Hero
Delicatessan
Killing Zoe
Waking LIfe
Basquiat
Tape
Before Night Falls
Buffalo '66

[~menstrualla]

Okay...here are my suggestions:

1. Harpya - Raoul Servais (it is a short film, but it is AMAZING! Trust me.)
2. Blue Velvet
3. Amelie
4. The Man Who Fell To Earth
5. The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover
6. Requiem For a Dream
7. Hedwig and the Angry Inch
8. Memento
9. Twin Peaks - Fire Walk With Me
10. Amores Perros

Now.....about David Lynch and sexuality and all that stuff...
I can see how somebody who is not a seasoned David Lynch fan might see Mulholland Drive as a gratuitous lesbian lovefest, but for those of you who are familiar with the director, he is notorious for pushing boundaries, and piecing his films together in a dizzying, off kilter way. I didn't object to the lesbian relationship in MD. In fact, I think it added to the intrigue of the characters. Here you have these unlikely "partners" that are trying to figure out a mystery. I won't go into it because I don't want to spoil the film for anyone who hasn't seen it. But I think that their relationship added to the mystery rather than detracted from it. And even if it was gratuitous (which I honestly don't think it was), I think that it is the right of every artist to explore all themes of life, no matter how far they take it. I think that artists are put on this earth to enlighten the narrowminded masses by pushing the proverbial envelope. So, hurrah to David Lynch for showing images and relationships that might make "normal" people squirm.
Okay, I'll get down off my soapbox already!

[~melibita]

Hmm not sure if you can call this movie independent or anything, but if you want French what about the film adaption of Cyrano de Bergerac, the version that came out in either the late 80's or 90's. That is a great movie. I will try to check out some of these films guys, I don't get many recommendations usually.

[Avil]

Storyteller
Ehm, I didn't see the point in that movie (or the movies).
Where there a hidden message I totally missed out or something?

Lost Highway
Saw half of it, then I made a phonecall and forgot about the movie, and never saw the rest of it. Gonna give it another chance tonight. But Im all confused, don't understand a second!!!!!

Christina

[~firecrow73]

I would recommend anything by Tarkovsky, start with Solaris, Stalker, Andrei Rublev. Sokurov is also quite good especially recent films like Mother and Son, and Russian Ark. I know this sounds cliche, but I think movies like these really have a chance to change one's life, if you just open your mind and heart... though I would not consider them "artsy" in a self-conscious sense like the work of David Lynch, at least not in the sense of games, in-jokes and mental puzzles. These are rather more serious, spiritual films that don't pull any punches.

I feel there really isn't anything comparable to these few directors in the Russian cinema right now (unless anyone knows of someone else...).

[Avil]

For those of you who are totally lost about Lost Highway, check this link out, it's pretty ok. (and those of you who wanna see the movie, DON'T CHECK THIS LINK OUT!!)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116922/board/nest/203043

[~White Rabbit]

"Films you *shouldnt* buy someone unless you dont like them^)^

Julien Donkey Boy
Gummo
Freddy Got Fingered
Bully
Happiness"


Hey Gummo and Julien Donkey Boy kicked ass. If you thought Bully was bad wait until you see Ken Park... I love Harmony Korine and Larry Clark, I recomend any movie by them.

Battle Royale isn't artsy but maybe it is just for being Japanese. Any movie by Miike Takashi is amazing, especially Ichi the Killer. lots of violence and good shots.

Hedwig and the Angry inch would make a great stocking stuffer. The best french movie I have ever seen is Man Bites Dog, it's in black and white and everything!

[~WorldUnderFire]

I would recommend The Tenant by Roman Polanksi (probably know that one already) or The Devil's Backbone.

[~Efreak]

"Dogma"
"May"
"Cecil B. Demented"
"Hedwig...."
"Donnie Darko"
"About Schmidt"
"One Hour Photo"
"Identity" (Nice twist)

Sheesh. All of the sudden I feel "goth-like". ;)
Jamie

[~djrandeesha]

I'll second Before Night Falls & Amores Perros. Two of the best movies I have ever seen.

I'll also add Burnt Money (Plata Quemada) and F*.ckland. Both are from Argentina. Burnt Money tells the true story of four guys who pull off a brink heist. F*.ckland is hysterical and is about an Argentine who returns to the Falkland Islands (which had been illegal up until this point because of the war) with the idea of getting the british women pregnant because their babies would inevitably be "Argentine" in look. Very funny and indie.

[~melibita]

My aunt recommends the movie "All Over Me," where a girl finds out she is a lesbian during a friend's accident and she starts falling for her.

[~SFARAH]

Wow you guys, you see a lot of really good cinema....

I just came back from DEMONLOVER...makes Mudholland Drive look like a hanna-barbera cartoon. POP...I´m sure you´ll enjoy it.

NOW PLAYING and you should see

Lost in the Translation
Dirty Pretty Things
Swimming Pool
The Cooler
Km.0
My life without me
Taking Sides (seeing Stellan Skarsgård and Harvey Keitel together is almost orgasmic)

[~Efreak]

Originally posted by melibita
My aunt recommends the movie "All Over Me," where a girl finds out she is a lesbian during a friend's accident and she starts falling for her.

Looking for a good lesbian flick? "Kissing Jessica Stein" was absolutely BRILLIANT! Funny as hell! :)
Jamie

[~Lestat]

jhonny got his gun
pink floyd the wall
the cube

[~djrandeesha]

Originally posted by melibita
My aunt recommends the movie "All Over Me," where a girl finds out she is a lesbian during a friend's accident and she starts falling for her.

Oh, I saw and enjoyed this when it was out a few years ago. It's a little bleak but a good movie. It's starring the girl student from the Gus Van Sant/Nicole Kidman movie. I'm forgetting the name of the film but Nicole Kidman plays that teacher that sleeps with one of her students and then has him kill her husband. Anyhow, the female student who gets into filmmaking because of Nicole Kidman's character is the lead character in All Over Me.

[~intervox]

I've always liked "Quadrophenia"

[~Jonna]

Versus!

Brilliant and I can't wait for the next one. It is a cross between Evil Dead 2 and the Matrix with really inventive camera angles and ideas. I think that I will watch it again tonight.

[~thattloser]

wow- cross between evil dead and the matrix? what is it- kick boxing zombies? i wasn't too impressed w/ evil dead, but i admit- it was a pretty creepy ass movie.

[~viernes_trece]

Menace II society

[~blepharisma]

MMm.

I'm planning on going to see Dirty Pretty Things in the next couple of weeks. Sounds pretty twisted & got some great reviews at www.rottentomatoes.com.

And it has Audrey Tautou from Amelie in it. I think she's supercool.

Went to see Lost in Translation this week. I liked it quite a bit, but it wasn't "The best movie I've ever seen!"

Some of my favs:
- Frida
- Amelie
- The Royal Tenenbaums
- Rushmore
- Requiem for a Dream

bah, I can't think of any more... I know there's lots

I still have to see City of Lost Children & Delicatessen... I just have to find a DVD rental place that has them.

//S

[~digitalia]

anything by the Coen bros. - especially Hudsucker Proxy
anything by Wes Anderson (Rushmore, Tennenbaums...)
Brazil
Death to Smoochy
Punch Drunk Love (that one was just odd)
and, of course, Fight Club

...more later when i can think of some

d

[~Cap661]

Some movies I reccomend:

-1984
-Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
-Germany, Pale Mother(if you can find it)
-Uzumaki(brilliant japanese movie)
-Salo(if you have a very strong stomach only)
-The Town is Quiet
-I stand alone(aka Seoul Contre Tous)
-Mouchette
-Stalingrad
-Come and See(the most soul-shattering film you will ever see)

Everyone else on here have listed some great films. I'm glad to be a part of a community with such good taste!

[~digitalia]

ok, i renew my support for Coen Brothers films. Just saw "The Man Who Wasn't There" - a film noir that takes a turn for the surreal. not quite as quirky as some of there other films, but still left a big impression on me.

d

[~NightHalo]

The movie Baraka is wonderful. Only music and outstanding visuals. It definately has a powerful message about the world we live in.