Enigma! heeeeeeh??

[Avil]

Someone told me to buy their album MCMXC...and oh I wanted to be nice so I did that...now I´m sitting here with some new age stuff and falling asleep every second or something.
Ok, it was ok, I can hear that many bands got influences from these songs....but...where is the charm?

-Christina

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by Avil
Someone told me to buy their album MCMXC...and oh I wanted to be nice so I did that...now I´m sitting here with some new age stuff and falling asleep every second or something.
Ok, it was ok, I can hear that many bands got influences from these songs....but...where is the charm?

-Christina

Well....waaaaaaaaay back in the day ... 1991 or so....that was the IN thing. That WAS the "charm" thing. All new agy and stuff.
Now...more then a decade after it's initial release....and us being exposed to alot of electronic trancy music (this is starting to sound like the horror movie thread), it is just not the same. Once again, Avil making us feel old. heheheh :D

[Avil]

1991... I was 7 back then...hehe...I didn´t even listened to music when I was 7.

hehe, never thought that enigma was "IN" once...
But...it´s interesting to hear this stuff...I think.
Especially track 8, that must have been a very influencial song...am I right? or...?

Christina (the fresh YOUNG girl...LOL)
j/k ;)

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by Avil
1991... I was 7 back then...hehe...I didn´t even listened to music when I was 7.

hehe, never thought that enigma was "IN" once...
But...it´s interesting to hear this stuff...I think.
Especially track 8, that must have been a very influencial song...am I right? or...?

Christina (the fresh YOUNG girl...LOL)
j/k ;)

Let's see...in 1991 I was living in Schweinfurt, Germany...and Enigma was big in that area.

Yes...Sadness was one of the singles if I remember right. I recall going to the local record store there and buying 3 of their 12" singles.
ahhhh. memories.
Oh well...I no longer have them. Sold them on eBay and the video tape I bought as well. *sniff*...now I'm kinda missing them.

[~Joevirus]

Originally posted by NoirTech


Well....waaaaaaaaay back in the day ... 1991 or so....that was the IN thing. That WAS the "charm" thing. All new agy and stuff.
Now...more then a decade after it's initial release....and us being exposed to alot of electronic trancy music (this is starting to sound like the horror movie thread), it is just not the same. Once again, Avil making us feel old. heheheh :D


Wow, it's scary to hear that "back in the day" refers to the early 90's!! Arrrrggghh!! I'm feeling old today. I remember back in the day (1986) jammin' to Psychedelic Furs and New Order.

In 90-91 when I first heard Enigma (in college) I thought I was mellowing out. I hear that album got more "action" than Barry White!!!

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by Joevirus



Wow, it's scary to hear that "back in the day" refers to the early 90's!! Arrrrggghh!! I'm feeling old today. I remember back in the day (1986) jammin' to Psychedelic Furs and New Order.

In 90-91 when I first heard Enigma (in college) I thought I was mellowing out. I hear that album got more "action" than Barry White!!!

I'm an 80s kid...being 30 now....but since Avil is so young, I decided to call the 90s back in the day. Just clarifying for ya. :D

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by NoirTech


I'm an 80s kid...being 30 now....but since Avil is so young, I decided to call the 90s back in the day. Just clarifying for ya. :D

Woah. Just realized that my bday is coming up this month. Crazy how those things creep up on you. Might as well add a "1" to the above number. *sigh*

[Avil]

lol
time passes faster than you thought.
I live for the 80´s! I call myself a 80´s child aswell...even thought I wasn´t a teen back then.
(Avil was a new born baby 1984 :D)

Can´t believe that Enigma is something "old"
I compare them with enya...and enya hasn´t been around for tooooooooooo long has she?

-Christina (younger for each day)

[~Joevirus]

Originally posted by NoirTech


Woah. Just realized that my bday is coming up this month. Crazy how those things creep up on you. Might as well add a "1" to the above number. *sigh*


Happy Birthday soon... I'm 30-ish as well.

[~FxBoy]

AVIL --- ENIGMA’s MCMXC is one of the biggest sellers back when it first came out. You can see how they have influenced lots of bands such as: Red Flag, Delerium, Camouflage, Gregorian, etc. It’s a ground-breaking album for a New Age/Electronic genre in early 90’s.

You just have to give it a few more listenings……. It’s a great album to listen after a long stressful day, especially at night.

Turn the lights off, the volume up, close your eyes………and you’ll feel LUSTFUL. I don’t wanna get into details here (since AVIL is still 17), but I personally found it’s a perfect album to listen to when you’re with someone you love….together…..in the dark……holding on to each other……. And you know the rests.

[test]

Originally posted by Joevirus



Happy Birthday soon... I'm 30-ish as well.

Hey, I am a member of this club too. I will be 31 next month. Just don't tell anybody, k? ;)

[Avil]

Originally posted by FxBoy

Turn the lights off, the volume up, close your eyes………and you’ll feel LUSTFUL. I don’t wanna get into details here (since AVIL is still 17), but I personally found it’s a perfect album to listen to when you’re with someone you love….together…..in the dark……holding on to each other……. And you know the rests.

You americans and your laws...I know your age limit when it comes to more than hugs is 18, am I right? Here in Sweden it´s 15...

however...you might be right...could be very relaxing..
I think I will love this album after the hundreds of indian songs I´ve downloaded for my mum...(she was born in india, so she loves these songs...) I´m dying.

[Avil]

Originally posted by djstargazerX


you crack me up Avil.. 1984 hehehe ... Enya has been around longer than Enigma.. Enya is OLDDDDDD...


1984 was THE YEAR! I was born then, and AV released their first stuff! :D

Didn´t know that part with enya though...how old is she? and how old are the members in enigma?

[~draxijn]

this is the voice of enigma suckas!

i love this album...great for extended work sessions at the computer or fallign asleep. and yeah they were big in germany...both of my 7 inch picture discs are from germany../

i first became interetsed in enigma when i heard return to innocence and also when i found they sampled u2's 'ultraviolet' without permission. cretu did a lot of that it seems. great disc though...

[test]

Can you imagine what your kids will be saying about Alphaville in 20 years? :laugh:

[Avil]

Hehehe...the thing is that Alphaville has already been around for 20 years! They celebrated their 20th anniversary this year :D
But I will force my kids into AV...first by naming them after AV songs and members...:)

But I understand what you mean...
All bands aren´t modern...but who cares? :)

-Christina (the un-modern girl)

[~Hajas]

Hey, the first one had too old sound, almost songs are instrumental, after the second the things comes close to the perfection.

Try the 2nd or the 3rd, they are really great! :)

I still like the 1st one today, but is little boring compared with the others. Try also Andru Donalds and Sandra, both produced by Michael Cretu (Enigma), really great NEW synthpop.

Freddy

[test]

I have a feeling that they will like Alphaville, or rather learn to like them. ;)

[Avil]

Originally posted by StphLadd
I have a feeling that they will like Alphaville, or rather learn to like them. ;)

Hehe I will marry an AV-fan, and play AV all day long! And they don´t have to learn to like it, they will like it from the very beginning...Who can dislike something so great? :)

Sandra...MARIA MAGDALENA is all I have to say...
and she made a cover of AV´s big in Japan in german...(japan ist weit)

cretu is good though

[test]

Yeah, see that's the good thing about kids. They love what you love. I have planted the dM seed in sooo many of them. :laugh:

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by StphLadd
Yeah, see that's the good thing about kids. They love what you love. I have planted the dM seed in sooo many of them. :laugh:

My 4 year old sings along to "Dream On" by DM. :-D

[test]

Hey, he ROCKS!!! Smart little guy!! He has taste and class and at quite a young age. Way to go! I bet you are soo proud. :D

[Avil]

Thanks for the information.
Some of her stuff is amazing...really relaxing...
had a crazy enya period some months ago

[~FxBoy]

Originally posted by NoirTech


My 4 year old sings along to "Dream On" by DM. :-D


He is still 4 yo. now.....By the time he hits 9 or 10 yo. he will choose Britney Spears to Depeche Mode. :-)

[test]

NO, he won't!!!! He will have taste and not need that hideous music. Erick and Michelle have taught him well. It never leaves you when you start off young. :)

Sorry, but I had to defend the MODE. ;)

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by FxBoy



He is still 4 yo. now.....By the time he hits 9 or 10 yo. he will choose Britney Spears to Depeche Mode. :-)

mmmmm...Brittney

oh wait.

no no. NOt if I have a say in it. hehehe

[~FxBoy]

You don't like "Ooh baby baby...... I'm so into you?"


"Hit me baby one more time......"

Come one, Steph. :-)


I think AVIL may like it. She is still 17 . ;-)

[Avil]

Originally posted by FxBoy


I think AVIL may like it. She is still 17 . ;-)

OOOOH baby baby, ooooooops I did it again...*sings*
Oh yeah...In fact, her two first albums were ok...I´m not joking...not something I would sit down and listen to, but the stuff I´ve heard from those albums were ok...nothing more...(Born to make you happy is great...)

However...my musictaste is much better than other people´s in my age...I must say that...hehe...

/Christina

[~chriswdc]

Yeah, representing the older crowd here...29.

Enigma is very relaxing. I always enjoyed listening to that first album. PLus, it's very nostalgic for me...takes me back to the summer of 1990..when I was 17. That was a good year.

[Avil]

Older crowd..heh...
I don´t see anyone over 25 and under 40 old!!!
(I rather prefer someone that´s 26 than someone in my own age...whatever)

We all have different opinions when it comes to different bands etc due to different experiences...or something.

[~Tekkrokk]

Originally posted by Joevirus



Wow, it's scary to hear that "back in the day" refers to the early 90's!! Arrrrggghh!! I'm feeling old today. I remember back in the day (1986) jammin' to Psychedelic Furs and New Order.


I am feeling old too. "back in the day" is 80's, not 90's. I first heard Enigma's "Sadeness" during college also. Specifically the remixed version first. I've been a fan of their (his) music ever since.

Avil - Recently Enigma released a "best of" CD called "Love Sensuality and Devotion" as well as a companion remixed version. I highly recommend them if you liked their first CD. And by the way, Enya (as you mentioned) has been around even longer than Enigma. In the 80's she used to belong to Clannad, and her first solo CD "The Celts" was released in 1986.

[~chriswdc]

Yes, Enya is quite good. I really enjoy listening to 'The Celts'. I also enjoy 'Shepherd Moons' circa 1991...the track "Caribbean Blue" is pretty amazing. "Afer Ventus" from the same release is also very beautiful.

[~schalana101]

Enigma brings back memories for me. But I grew up listening to them, when I was 10 or 11.
You can hear the modernism in their sound on The Screen Behind The Mirror. And yes, I also agree that LS&D is worth getting if you liked their early material.

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by Tekkrokk



I am feeling old too. "back in the day" is 80's, not 90's. I first heard Enigma's "Sadeness" during college also. Specifically the remixed version first. I've been a fan of their (his) music ever since.


Ok..let me say it again...for ME ...back in the day also means the 80s..since i'm 31..i said "back in the day" for the sake of Avil.

[NoirTech]

To be perfectly honest, I've always thought that Enya was incredibly boring. Never really got into her stuff. Was not the same with Enigma though. I could really sink my teeth into their music back in the early 90s. Haven't liked much of their more recent stuff though.

[test]

Originally posted by FxBoy
You don't like "Ooh baby baby...... I'm so into you?"


"Hit me baby one more time......"

Come one, Steph. :-)


I think AVIL may like it. She is still 17 . ;-)

No, I can't stand Britney. I am a teacher and every year our school has a talent show. Every year for a month and a half, I hear Britney songs being danced to by at least 5 different groups of kids. I walk quickly through the auditorium and into the office to do what I have to do. It's even worse now that I am in the building because I am just down the hall from the auditorium and can hear it. That's when I grab one of my cds and crank it up. I know what I like and what I don't like. I don't like Britney. Call me narrow minded, or whatever. That's just me.

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by StphLadd


No, I can't stand Britney. I am a teacher and every year our school has a talent show. Every year for a month and a half, I hear Britney songs being danced to by at least 5 different groups of kids. I walk quickly through the auditorium and into the office to do what I have to do. It's even worse now that I am in the building because I am just down the hall from the auditorium and can hear it. That's when I grab one of my cds and crank it up. I know what I like and what I don't like. I don't like Britney. Call me narrow minded, or whatever. That's just me.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG....
...are you sure you are not dead and in your own personal hell?
Isn't that consider torture is some areas of the world?
hehehe

[test]

Well, I do plant the seeds of good music. My kids love to come in the room at lunch time. I usually work through my lunch and have my music going. They love to come in before school and on Friday afternoons as well. They know who depeche MODE, mesh, poe, iris, VNV Nation and ApB are. :D

[Avil]

Well, I haven´t been able to listen more to the engima album, but the things I´ve heard is incredible boring. Enya is very good, but this didn´t really fit me...

Gotta give it some more time though.
Which are their first album?

[~spi]

I have Enigma's "The Cross Of Changes" mainly just for "Return To Innocence" and "I Love You... I'll Kill You". Two great songs by the way. I don't mind their music but it is really slow and could be classified as boring in some places. Overall not a bad album nothing to write home about though. :)

-steve

[Avil]

Oh yeah by the way...I love the song return to innocence...are there any songs that sound similar to that one???And not too much "i´m falling asleep while singing" songs?
Would love to hear some songs like that...

oh yeah

[~Bornslippy]

I like "i love you I'll kill you" something like that.. I lost the CD that CD a year ago... It's in San Fran somewhere.

[~Eyuva]

Enigma is cool, I like the way they fused hip-hop beats with good music. Something hip-hop lacks for me.

Delerium is better though. Get Semantic Spaces & Karma.

I also like some Sphongle...

[Avil]

What does that cd do in SF Mark???????????? lol

and...hip hop? I can´t hear anything similar to hip hop in the enigma songs...at least not on the album I own!

[~chriswdc]

Originally posted by Avil
Oh yeah by the way...I love the song return to innocence...are there any songs that sound similar to that one???And not too much "i´m falling asleep while singing" songs?
Would love to hear some songs like that...

oh yeah

You may wish to investigate a band called Deep FOrest. "Return To Innocence" has a world music feel...most Deep Forest tracks have a similar feel.

[Avil]

Originally posted by chriswdc


You may wish to investigate a band called Deep FOrest. "Return To Innocence" has a world music feel...most Deep Forest tracks have a similar feel.

Deep forest...
I guess I could give that band a listen.
not that I´m so much for world music, I think return to innocence is an exception...

Christina

[~chriswdc]

Originally posted by Avil


Deep forest...
I guess I could give that band a listen.
not that I´m so much for world music, I think return to innocence is an exception...

Christina

Yeah, I am very selective with the world music genre. I have heard things I have like from Deep Forest and bought the first album. A lot of it is sampled voices in other languages put to a drum loop. Some of it is pretty good, but I would be lying if I said it was always on my CD player.

[Avil]

Oh I see...
well still sounds interesting since you mentioned it, so I will check it out, do you think it´s easy to find anything with this band? or is one of those bands you will online find on stores online?

[~chriswdc]

Originally posted by Avil
Oh I see...
well still sounds interesting since you mentioned it, so I will check it out, do you think it´s easy to find anything with this band? or is one of those bands you will online find on stores online?

This band's albums are readily available on all the common music site (i.e. cdnow, etc.)

Now that I think about it...I believe I have the band's first and second albums. They are different, but nice to listen to every now and then. You may wish to find a album used through a site like www.djangos.com or listen to snippets online before you commit to a purchase. I like the music though.

[~chriswdc]

Originally posted by Avil
Oh I see...
well still sounds interesting since you mentioned it, so I will check it out, do you think it´s easy to find anything with this band? or is one of those bands you will online find on stores online?

I think I would start with Deep Forest's 2nd album..it's self titled 'Deep Forest' and it is my favorite album from them.

[Avil]

ok thank you for your suggestion chris.
I will make sure to check it out....
hearing some snippets wouldn´t be too bad,.

[~chriswdc]

Originally posted by Avil
ok thank you for your suggestion chris.
I will make sure to check it out....
hearing some snippets wouldn´t be too bad,.

Well, let me know what you think of it. I would be interested to hear what you think.

[Avil]

Yeah I will do that...

are there any songs in particular you can recommend or is it the whole album (their second one) you can recommend?

Christina

[~chriswdc]

Originally posted by Avil
are there any songs in particular you can recommend or is it the whole album (their second one) you can recommend?


Actually I think the very first track on the second album..also called "Deep Forest" is my favorite....yes you heard correctly, listen to "Deep Forest" by Deep Forest on their second album titled 'Deep Forest'. :)

[Avil]

lol, this is almost starting to get funny...
well, ok, I will keep my ears opened for Deep forest from deep forest by deep forest...the band isn´t from a place called deep forest are they? ;)

[~chriswdc]

Originally posted by Avil
lol, this is almost starting to get funny...
well, ok, I will keep my ears opened for Deep forest from deep forest by deep forest...the band isn´t from a place called deep forest are they? ;)

Hmm, I am not certain, but they probably should be. :)

[~donut]

I only got into Enigma in the first place because of Michael Cretu (that's the main guy <only guy?> in enigma). Pre-Enigma he was a fantastic producer of synthpop bands. He was involved in Hubert KaH and Peter Schilling (he worked on "Different Story", along with Hubert Kemmler of Hubert Kah). After that he put out a solo album which is sort of a transition... I mean, you can hear the enigma sound a bit. So of course I had to buy all of enigma's stuff. I don't care too much for their first album... it makes great background music (or movie music) but not something to sit down and listen to. After that, though, I think he got better and better. Not at all like what he did before enigma, but great anyway. I love the tracks on the most recent album that he did with the girl from Olive (I can't remember her name.. I also forgot the names of the songs, but there were 2 of them, both very good). Also, I found most of the cd singles in the past few years, and they always have a fantastic remix on them (done of course, by michael cretu).

Well, someone else might have already mentioned all this... I didn't finish reading all the other posts yet.

Kelly

[~Eyuva]

Originally posted by Avil
What does that cd do in SF Mark???????????? lol

and...hip hop? I can´t hear anything similar to hip hop in the enigma songs...at least not on the album I own!

exactly, that's why I like it. I said they took hip-hop beats and added good music over it. I forgot which hip-hop groups they took beats from though. Hip-hip is normally too loopy for me and puts me into a trancelike sleep. Trance on the other hand does the exact opposite. :p

[Avil]

Hm, I´m sitting here and wondering what I meant with SF...
However, my memory is bad, I´m starting to get old :D

But it´s cool how they´ve can mix all different sounds and in the end still manage to make it sound good.
And how this music later on can influence so many people. :)

[~chriswdc]

Originally posted by Eyuva


exactly, that's why I like it. I said they took hip-hop beats and added good music over it. I forgot which hip-hop groups they took beats from though. Hip-hip is normally too loopy for me and puts me into a trancelike sleep. Trance on the other hand does the exact opposite. :p

Hmm, it's been a while since I toyed with a Roland TR-909 drum machine, but I was under the impression that first Enigma album was predominantly one of the 909 preset drum rhythms. Maybe not...I am not certain.

[Avil]

I´ve taken a listen to a couple of deep forest songs...

Listening to sweet lullaby right now.
I find it a very calm song, very beautiful. The only thing that really destroys the song must be the vocals! Just terrible!!!!!!

I also heard while the earth sleeps with peter gabriel on the vocals...I think he makes a good job, but it would had been much better if the song instead had been a slow one...
too messy right now,...

And enigma

silence must be heard and gravity of love are two songs I got to hear today...they were much better than the ones I got from the XCMwhatever album....female vocals...and it sounded good :)

Christina

Thanks to the person that helped me to hear these songs.