And the difference is?

[Avil]

I´ve thought about something for a long time now, and never really gotten an answer. Thought about this with mixes and remixes. What´s the difference?
Is a remix a mix of a mix or what?

Please tell me...

[Avil]

Originally posted by djstargazerX
huh?

a remix is a mix, but a mix can be the original so its not necessarily a remix


huh? is my reaction aswell..
Didn´t understand that. So a remix and a mix is basically the same thing?

[~GuyverX]

Yeah, you can remix a mix, but you can't necessarily mix a remix...or something. How much wood can a woodchuck chuck... :)

[7red7]

Originally posted by GuyverX
Yeah, you can remix a mix, but you can't necessarily mix a remix...or something. How much wood can a woodchuck chuck... :)



*LMAO* :laugh:


Dunno how much wood, but I think a mix can be an original as well...A remix to me is a song mixed by someone other than the original song writer/band...

[Avil]

Then a remix is a mix of a mix...(in ordinary terms)

And a remix can be done by the band that made the original version aswell.

Whatever, sounds good...a mix of a mix.
Let me believe this....:D

[~chriswdc]

Originally posted by Avil
Then a remix is a mix of a mix...(in ordinary terms)

And a remix can be done by the band that made the original version aswell.

Whatever, sounds good...a mix of a mix.
Let me believe this....:D

It appears you have got the hang of it. :)

[~MidiRipper]

In the terminology that I understand it as, is that a 'mix' usually refers to a DJ mix. Meaning the mixing, blending, cutting, or transitioning of one song into another.

'Remix' refers to a single song being re-made, re-done, re-edited, or re-arranged. For example, AV's "Forever Young" has album version, and the extended version.

'Ripper

[7red7]

Originally posted by MidiRipper
In the terminology that I understand it as, is that a 'mix' usually refers to a DJ mix. Meaning the mixing, blending, cutting, or transitioning of one song into another.

'Remix' refers to a single song being re-made, re-done, re-edited, or re-arranged. For example, AV's "Forever Young" has album version, and the extended version.

'Ripper


Okay now this analogy I think she can plainly understand *LOL* :laugh:

[Synthpopalooza]

And then there's of course, the modern remix as opposed to the classical extended remix ... where these days the norm is to take the vocal track and write a completely new melody underneath it, as opposed to the classical way of taking the source tracks and rearranging them.

Now she's totally confused, I will guarantee ya. :)

[Avil]

Originally posted by Synthpopalooza
And then there's of course, the modern remix as opposed to the classical extended remix ... where these days the norm is to take the vocal track and write a completely new melody underneath it, as opposed to the classical way of taking the source tracks and rearranging them.

Now she's totally confused, I will guarantee ya. :)

Just when I began to understand! *mutters* ;)

You are talking about a new melody, but it´s still the same chords then?

And..eeeh...whatever...

[~chriswdc]

Unfortunately, Avil, the word mix can be used in more than one context. Re-mix however is consistently used to indicate a changed version of a song that usually features the original lead vocal and melody.

[~cliffwalk]

No, you just take the vocal tracks (or any other song elements), toss everything else in the trash, and do whatever you want. That is a modern remix.

And the song structure doesn't have to resemble the song either.

It's, in essence, a brand new song.

[Avil]

Cliffwalk,aha, I could understand that (Wow)
So you basically just use the lyrics and the same singer and make a new song? Heh, I wouldn´t call that a mix/remix whatever.

Chris, ok, I see!! I could accept that explanation! :)

Thanks guys! You are great. :D

[~NukleoN]

A brand new song wouldn't be a remix, would it, Cliffwalk? :)

[~Joevirus]

Okay already...

A band records in the studio and run their gear through a "mixer".
The producer "mixes" the track down to what they call the final "mix". That is what you get on your CD you bought at Virgin.

The band/label/producer take the rough tracks (vocal tracks, drum tracks, synth tracks, sample tracks,etc.) and give them to other producers/DJs/bands to "remix" the song.

The third party producer/Dj/band then takes those tracks, re-record them in a different way, sometimes adding more instruments, vocals, etc., and then "mixes" them down to a new version of the song, the "REMIX".

That is the technical stand point. Now the person who did the "remix" can call it "the DJ Virus Mix", "The DJ Virus Remix" or The DJ Virus Version", those are nothing more than a title for the new "remix".


Thank you.
Goodnight.

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Luvies,
Joe




P.S. This Post is best viewed when read really fast like those lawyers in the car commercials.

[~cliffwalk]

I said, "IN ESSENCE"... what I mean is that most remixes don't resemble the original piece very much... or maybe the focal point of the piece is so drastically changed that the only hints of the original tune you hear are fleeting...

usually -- the end result, in my ears, sounds like a new song to me... how the remix artist got there, from a technical standpoint, is another story.. that's just a matter of taking some shared raw elements that make up the original mix and using them to feed the new piece...

feed it, not drive or structure it, in most cases.

yawn ... damn, i'm starting to bore myself.... ok... hey everyone, I think I killed the horse!! we can all go home now!

dave

[Avil]

Hahaa, thank you thank you.
Got the perfect explanation from Joe, you know the guy that wrote the post that is best viewed when read really fast like those lawyers in the car commercials...:D

So nothing except the original version is a mix, everything is a remix, even though you might call it a bla bla mix or a bla bla extended mix or whatever.
Oh yeah!

Christina

[~chriswdc]

Ehhh..close enough.
Joe, Vanilla Coke tastes like cream soda..I don't get it. :)

[~NukleoN]

Cliffwalk: Since this thread started with Avil wondering what a 'remix' was, and for the sake of clarity, I'd hate to call a 'remix' a 'brand new song'.

In essence, a remix is a re-interpretation of an existing song. If the remix weren't recognizable, what would be the point of it? If you have a remix which you call 'essentially a brand new song', you could be accused of plagiurism, right?

[~GuyverX]

Yeah, I don't think a remix is a "brand new song." If it is, then the remixer did a horibble job; I mean, why call it a remix if it doesn't even contain some semblance of the original? They should save it for their own project/band.

[~Joevirus]

Originally posted by chriswdc
Ehhh..close enough.
Joe, Vanilla Coke tastes like cream soda..I don't get it. :)


Oooh I love cream soda as well. I rewarded my curiosity, It is sweeter than THE REAL THING, and I don't like the new fad of Lemon Coke/Pepsi Blue/DR Pepper Red Fusion...blagghh.

Heehee.

Lovies,
Joe Virus


Jack Into The Mainframe!

[~GuyverX]

I don't mean to be the party-pooper, but let's keep things on-topic. If you want to talk about soft drinks, head over to the "community campus" section of EGN...I'm sure it'll be a popular thread. You know you want to... :D

[~Joevirus]

Ouch, in the immortal words of Steve Martin,
"WELL EXCUUUUUUUUUSE ME."

I will refrain from replying to things replied to me.


But first of all... I gave the most detailed and comprehendable answer to the question given in the topic. Most everyone else did a little dance around giving the answer. I cut to the chase, and delivered what help was needed. I had a small blurb at the bottom of my post I thought was funny, someone else did as well, and then i replied to that. I'm sorry if the semantics around the "mystery of the mix/remix" were more important than my solid answer.

I am easy to get along with. And I will remain on topic from now on.

[~GuyverX]

Listen, that wasn't a knock to anybody. There's no need to be personally offended. Besides, I made sure my post contained a certain amount of tact. :)

[~Joevirus]

Originally posted by GuyverX
Listen, that wasn't a knock to anybody. There's no need to be personally offended. Besides, I made sure my post contained a certain amount of tact. :)


Sorry, I didn't realize that it was not a "E-Attack/flame" whatever.
I was in a bad mood when you posted that. Please read the above edited message. I'm not trying to make enemies, but I felt a bit of an elitist attitude coming from your direction. That is why I posted. I realize that I'm just used to the attitudes here in Dallas. Sorry.

Joe

[~GuyverX]

LOL, hey, it's cool. I didn't mean to start anything, and I am definitely not elitist...well, not really anyway. ;)

[Avil]

Well guys.
Thank you everyone for your answers, I´ve learned a lot!!
(I´m honest now) The best answer I got was the one when someone told me that all versions of a song (except the demos etc) are remixes except the original "mix".

Thanks a lot! You are wonderful.
Gotta come up with another stupid question soon. :)