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~Provision
July 26th, 2002, 04:58 PM
i have the edited down(it has all the songs edited down to 3 min each) Promo for the album
its damn good..nothing like Call the Ships to Port.
thats the only really dancy song on the album the rest is nice and mellow..
i cant wait to hear the whole album..
track that really stick out for me are Bullet, Prometheus and Atlas

~draxijn
July 26th, 2002, 06:42 PM
oh i am so jealous of you right now!

and i love call the ships to port...i sorta wish there WERE a few tracks in that vein but i'll be picking this one up asap anyways!

~GuyverX
July 26th, 2002, 08:43 PM
Editing? What do you mean Stargazer?

~incognito
July 26th, 2002, 09:14 PM
He means that their label sent out promos of the album that contain edited versions of the songs. Each one is just over 3 minutes before fading out.

I have it as well and will be taking my time buying the full release once it's available. CTSTP is the only old school sounding Covenant track on the whole album, and even that's not too good imo. Most of it is very very slow and mellow. Even slower than USoM if you can believe that. Covenant used to be good at giving a new style with each release but Northern Light is more or less a sequel to USoM as far as I can tell. The slow song Depeche fans will like it but anyone looking for some really big beats, club anthems and addictive melodies will be quite disappointed.

~PTInc
July 26th, 2002, 09:24 PM
GOd damnit!!!! I though CtStP was an indication that they were going back to the ol Cryotank style.

::rips hair out::

::burns all futurepop cds::

~Provision
July 26th, 2002, 09:35 PM
I like the sound on the new album its vary relaxed.
its still got a dance song or two..but most of it is mellow..
vary good singing on it..the best i've heard yet from covenant,

~incognito
July 26th, 2002, 11:52 PM
singles have remixes and club anthems on them
That's true, and that's probably the only way we'll ever hear them from Covenant again... as long as they don't do what VNV Nation and Apop did by sacrificing GOOD remixes in place of trying to gather up as many big name (and very bad) Trance guys as they can.

Yes the new album has more than one song that could be played in a club, maybe two in total, but none of those songs have any big build up or catchy riffs to get into like CTSTP does. That's why that song will be THE new Covenant song everyone hears for the next year. It's going to be Dead Stars syndrome all over again.

The days of Dreams.., Sequencer and Europa are long since over for Covenant.

~incognito
July 27th, 2002, 05:44 AM
whats wrong with that?

dont be one of those dorky people who want Violator ten times over

Covenant ¤¤¤¤ing rule and they need to evolve like everyone else.. stop whining
Stargazer, take your attitude and kindly shove it. I never said I wanted ANYTHING ten times over. In fact, that's why I'm disappointed... because this album IS a Part 2 of United States of Mind. Why do you think I view this whole hype over Apop, VNV, Icon of Coil, A23 and so on as being completely ridiculous? Because none of them ever evolve and only keep releasing the same album over and over again. Up until this album, Covenant were the one band out of this bunch that DID evolve... even if it sometimes was not in ways many of us longstanding fans really liked. If you would have read my posts, you would have seen me state that already.

I also happen to own every single Covenant release (in triplicate where certain releases are concerned), but even I won't be so mindless as to think that whatever they touch "¤¤¤¤ing rules" as you put it. As a fan who has invested tons of money & time in bands I love, especially Covenant, I'm allowed to express my disatisfaction as much as you're allowed to play mindless groupie. I stated it the way it is... people expecting the big club thumpers from this album will probably be disappointed while people who enjoy slower stuff in the style of DM will probably enjoy it. My only complaint at this stage is that CTSTP is going to get run right into the ground by virtually every DJ in this scene... it's inevitable.

I suggest that until you hear the album for yourself, you save your defensive comments so that you actually have some basis of making them in the first place. Yelling "Covenant ¤¤¤¤ing rule" is hardly an intelligent arguement.

~Elitistwanker
July 27th, 2002, 11:09 AM
Bah all I really wanted with this one was something punchy to play in the car, but it looks like im not even getting that. Oh well, new Underworld was bound to be better anyways.

seraphim
July 27th, 2002, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by djstargazerX
i'm sure i could find it..but anyone have the release date on them??

I haven't seen anyone mention it yet, so I will. The release date for "Northern Lights" was pushed forward to September 30th, instead of the original release date of early October.

If the new album is slow like some of the songs on USoM, I think I'll like it.

NoirTech
July 27th, 2002, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by incognito
He means that their label sent out promos of the album that contain edited versions of the songs. Each one is just over 3 minutes before fading out.



The editing of songs for the promo seemed like a very interesting idea to me. I remember how pissed off DM was when their album was online just a few days after they shipped their promos. heh
Anyways, I wonder if other bands will be following this same idea.

~incognito
July 27th, 2002, 11:03 PM
Quite a few bands and labels have done this before Covenant/ka2 did, but rather than trying to combat MP3 trading, they were just trying to give the press some teasers to wet their appetites. I don't think these kind of promos will be the new rage since DJ's can still use them perfectly fine without ever having to buy the full length releases... if they're good at tricky beatmixing.

~draxijn
July 28th, 2002, 03:50 AM
well the fact is that the dj's and everyone else downlaoding these tracks wouldn't have the full song. but i mean as soon as the first REAL copy is in a trader's hands...it's ripped.

okay i'm in the process of getting the promo as i type this...it is VERY slow and NOTHING like CTSTP which dissapoints me. the stuff is good music but so far there's absolutely no complexity?

~draxijn
July 28th, 2002, 04:48 AM
well i'm dissapointed folks...it's only my humble opinion but there's no risks taken on this album and there's no energy. sure it's still an above-average release but i expect some complexity...i am nearly asleep after hearing this.

i still love call the shps to port and prometheus and bullet are great (though slower) but covenant is going to end up where vnv nation and apop are right now on my list of purchase priorities. they're just not going there as fast...

Avil
July 28th, 2002, 07:55 AM
Call the ships to port is an amazing song. Can you imagine this song being played live in front of thousands and thousands of people? That kicked major ass!!!!
People were crazy, screaming, jumping,singing, dancing..I was one of them.

I´m really looking forward to the new album!!!

And about the piracy thing...hehe, seems like Covenant succeded with their little mission...or not...
*listening to her MP3 of call the ships to port* :D

~marco_spn
July 28th, 2002, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by Avil


And about the piracy thing...hehe, seems like Covenant succeded with their little mission...or not...
*listening to her MP3 of call the ships to port* :D

Well, it would be impressive if you were listening to the full versions of the album...

~draxijn
July 28th, 2002, 02:55 PM
considering the fact that my promo rip is an amok release AND the songs still fade out at 3:00...i'd say this is a step in the right direction!

NoirTech
July 28th, 2002, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by draxijn
considering the fact that my promo rip is an amok release AND the songs still fade out at 3:00...i'd say this is a step in the right direction!

Nice! heh.
...but once they get a hold of the real deal, and rip it,...wonder how long it will take for them to throw it up for that group to grab. ....and will some of them grab the edited one by accident?
heh

Avil
July 28th, 2002, 06:19 PM
Heh, people will always find a way to get the music out the the masses... technology...

But still, I think it´s pretty good to have some mp3s so you know what you are buying before you buy it. I mean, if I throw out $20 on an album, at least I want to know that I like some of the songs... If I on the other hand buy something and I don´t like anything, sure the band got some money but they didn´t got another fan...anyone understand me?
What I´m trying to say that mp3s are good.

NoirTech
July 28th, 2002, 07:13 PM
oh oh Avil...you are about to open a can of worms that has been opened in this forum and other lists many many times before. :)
There are some very opionated people here about the whole "mp3" thing...so if you see a lot of PM or emails, heh.
Fun no?
I too hate spending $20 on an album and then hating it for not hearing it before. Oh..there are many that I've done this with. :(

Avil
July 28th, 2002, 08:41 PM
Hehe, I understood that Erick, so I´m not going to discuss this topic any further. I know what I think about it, I know what many artists think about it..that´s enough.

Back to the original topic. Anyone heard anything else from northern light? except the edited ones?

~Cutedge
July 29th, 2002, 02:18 PM
I wouldn't go so far as to call this album a 'sequel' to USoM, and it does have some good club tracks on it. I for one am waiting for the full release so I can hear 'we want revolution' on the dancefloor.

Not quite what I was expected, but far from disappointing for me.

Now if only Metropolis would get their act together. They haven't set a date for it yet (so yes, we can probably expect a USoM-style delay for the US release) *and* they are NOT releasing Call the Ships to Port domestically, although that's not that big of a deal.... the remixes blow. Next time have eskil do more remixes and get haujobb again. ;-)

~draxijn
July 29th, 2002, 02:24 PM
avil the edited versions are simply faded out at 3:00...so you hear exactly what the songs sound like but not all the way to the end.

and regarding mp3 groups...not to worry. when thwey have the real vesion of the album in hand they'll label the rip properly so when they're 'helping the scene' nobody 'borrows' the wrong version hehe.

~incognito
July 29th, 2002, 02:37 PM
I wouldn't go so far as to call this album a 'sequel' to USoM, and it does have some good club tracks on it. I for one am waiting for the full release so I can hear 'we want revolution' on the dancefloor.
Not me. The music sounds good until the vocals kick in. They sound extremely cheesy imho, and totally take away from what could have been a good song.

Not quite what I was expected, but far from disappointing for me.

Now if only Metropolis would get their act together. They haven't set a date for it yet (so yes, we can probably expect a USoM-style delay for the US release)
If they release the new album at all. I wouldn't be surprised if Covenant are trying to secure something bigger first.

*and* they are NOT releasing Call the Ships to Port domestically,
They never release EP's or singles anyway, save for a couple here and there for their biggest bands.

although that's not that big of a deal.... the remixes blow. Next time have eskil do more remixes and get haujobb again.
I was actually quite surprised with the remixes. The Oliver Klitzing and Kaylab mixes are awesome (they're also the same guy just under 2 different names). These mixes let me enjoy the song a lot more than the original did. The obligatory Club Version isn't all that bad either, but pretty typical. I'd say these are overall some of Covenant's strongest remixes to date... just as good as their own... if not better in places.

~Elitistwanker
July 29th, 2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by incognito
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If they release the new album at all. I wouldn't be surprised if Covenant are trying to secure something bigger first.
Its scheduled to be released on Oct. 8th according to Metro's site

~Cutedge
July 29th, 2002, 07:32 PM
Hey they must have updated that today because earlier they... didn't...

OH MY GOD VERTICAL THEORY ON OCT 8TH! HAUJOBB HAUJOBB!

*ahem*

Sorry, loss of control there.

Avil
July 29th, 2002, 07:58 PM
Hehe, I wont miss the releasedate...no delayes for me!! :D
For once it´s good not being in the US...hehehe...
Always something positive with sweden.

But october is far away...=/