Bands who has changed their way of sound

[~ilvisintetic]

Sure you know bands who began making synthpop and finished making hard rock or EBM, or bands who made gothic rock and now they make synthpop.

One of these bands is Blind Passengers. They made synthpop at first, very sweet. They began to introduce guitars and after they sound aggressive, it sounds like NIN.

[~marco_spn]

Ministry... from synthpop to industrial

Celebrate The Nun... from synthpop to rave (Scooter)

A-ha... from synthpop to erm, pop/rock?

Anything Box... from synthpop to alternative

Eurythmics... from synthpop to pop

Hubert Kah.... from synthpop to easy listening

Information Society... from synthpop to industrial

Men Without Hats... from synthpop to rock and hopefully back again

Rational Youth... from synthpop to pop and back again

Tears For Fears.... from synthpop to pop

Sisters Of Mercy... one awesome synthpop album

Ganymede... from synthpop to gangsta rap






Okay! Kidding about the last one shouldn't you have noticed. :)

[~ElectroJunk]

I notice that most artists have been listening to trance. So the music changes with them. I can name Klinik, Negative Format, IC 434, Implant just to name a few. Their are prolly a lot of other bands getting this trancy sound. VNV Nation? Headscan? ever noticed?

[seraphim]

What's the point to this tread? I think I'm missing it. All bands will change, if it's even a slight change in sound, it's still change. If a band didn't change over the course of time, that would be sad and show that they, as artists and people aren't learning or experiencing anything. Personally, I both want and expect a band to change over the course of their careers. I think it's only natural for artists who start out in the synthpop or industrial realm to eventually move further away from that and more into adult contemporary or dance sound. Take for example, most of the true old Industrial bands aren't industrial anymore...not really. My theory always was that what made them industrial were the times they started and lived in. The technology wasn't there or readily available to the artists, not like it is today. Well, you get the idea. Synthpop bands are much the same way.

[~marco_spn]

I don't think I entirely agree with that. Only natural to move to adult contempory or dance? Why? If you're happy with what you're doing and the fans like it, why change? Is that sad? Haven't they learned or experienced anything? Weird statement.

I can think of a few bands that haven't changed a bit during their career, and they still sound great. Welle:Erdball, Second Decay, Avant Garde, Elegant Machinery come to mind.

[seraphim]

That's cool, Marco, I don't expect many people to ever agree with me. I'm not saying that bands that don't change their sounds are bad or are destined to never go anywhere, I like Avantgarde and Elegant Machinery, they've both enjoyed popularity and long careers. If a band is happy with the sound they produce, by all means they should keep that sound. I'm only saying that some sort of change or evolution of sound usually happens within a band. More bands change than stay the same.

[~ilvisintetic]

when I speak about change in their careers, I want to say that: change. It´s not the same that evolution for me. The evolution is a natural process in any band, the change mean the band play music completely different at any moment.

listen to Die Krupps, from 'Machineries Of Joy'(E.B.M.) to 'II'(hard rock), that´s an strange change.

[seraphim]

Yeah, some bands do some pretty radical swings in their careers. Who know's what posseses them to do such things, musicians are such strange creatures. The only way to truely know why they did or do what they do is to ask them themselves.

As far as Die Krupps is concerned, "The Machineries of Joy" was (to my knowledge) the first thing the band released back in 1989 and was a joint venture with Nitzer Ebb. II was release four years later in 1993 and I think a more accurate representation of what they wanted to do.

But I get what you're saying. It is odd sometimes but either you go with their changes or just listen to their back catalogue ;p

[~Hajas]

I think that all band need a evolution or will die.

True, you can have a good evolution without change your style.

Alphaville is a good exemple.
they done TechnoPop on 80's and Synthpop now.

CTN changed his style, but change the name. I think they made right to change the name. So no error there in my view.

About A-ha, I disagree with you Marco, A-ha stay in the same style in my opinion, what changed was their minds. :)
They are more old and mature, not more doing "take on me" club hits anymore, but all the other songs could be on any other album in the same style. It's only a point of view. I really never think that A-ha was synthpop one day.

About InSoc, I think what Kurt done is cool, but he must change the name and not use Information Society anymore, that's was the error in my opinion. InSoc will always be Paul & Kurt working together, his solos works are great but can't be named as InSoc.

De/Vision is a band that almost guys hate VOID, but I really like it.
Have some "grunge" tracks, but have somes of their best tracks also in my opinion, and aside 2 or 3 tracks are complete different of their original style, the album in a big view still synthpop, only more hard. Is best than TWO in my opinion.

I think if DM release today "just can't get enough" will be a complete disaster. Anyone need a evolution, and left the past to the memories and not try to make the past today, because will never be.

Freddy

[~marco_spn]

Good points Freddy!

But A-ha's first album is synthpop all the way. :)

[~Human Clone]

U2 trying to endear themselves to the dance crowd with the album "POP" with horrible songs like "Discotheque". Also Bowie's Industrial offering "Outside" produced by Trent Reznor (great album: Afraid of Americans and Hearts Filthy Lesson. I thought both of these albums were a total change in their previous sound.

[~Vladimir Valette]

Afraid of Americans is on "Earthling". Bowie always changes his sound, he never stayed to one sound. That's why he is probably the most important artist of the last century. Trent Reznor didn't produce Outside. It was done by Bowie and Eno.


No matter what, he is God.

[~draxijn]

man i LOVE u2's 'pop' album...they were reinventing (yet again) and while there were some crappy tracks like 'miami' and some questionably lame lyrics (discotheque) that was an amazing album i think. in fact i really don't have an electronic album quite like it...some inccredibly cool sounds on that one!

lame is what they're releasing NOW. what sellouts. i lived and breathed u2 before i found new order and all this stuff...never thought i'd say that. bono's writing the worst lyrics of his career and the edge has lost his...well his friggin' edge. retire boys or pickup where zooropa (another favorite of mine) left off.

oh and...

Ganymede... from synthpop to gangsta rap

hehe...marco you are hilarious! i get it...but i wonder if anyone else has put two and two together yet?

some bands excite me with all the radical changes...abox being number one. (although we'd all kill for one more 'classic' album)

[~noseeum]

Originally posted by seraphim
Yeah, some bands do some pretty radical swings in their careers. Who know's what posseses them to do such things, musicians are such strange creatures. The only way to truely know why they did or do what they do is to ask them themselves.
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But I get what you're saying. It is odd sometimes but either you go with their changes or just listen to their back catalogue ;p

Haujobb is good example. The gap between "Homes and Garden" and "Ninetynine" is very large.

In this case I know that Daniel Mayer decided to do this radical change with "Ninetynine" because he was severely annoyed by the industrial scene which lacked innovations in his view.

Furthermore it's funny to look at some reactions. Some fans appreciated the change since they expected Haujobb to alter from every release to the next one. The other side felt deceived because Haujobb left the industrial path.
On the other hand "Polarity" pleased the industrial fans but the ones who expect a change like "Ninetynine" were annoyed since "Polarity" reminded of "Solutions for a Small Planet"

[~chriswdc]

As a songwriter, I find it easier to change. It is difficult for me to write the same type of material repeatedly..I get bored, and uninspired. It is when I have a new feeling with the music that I become most prolific. However, that being said, my song structure and the way I write song hooks has little variation, while my beats, sounds, "moods" seem to be diverse.

[~Eyuva]

X-Dream completely changed their style. From goa trance to some sort of industrial trance.

[~Eyuva]

Originally posted by ElectroJunk
I notice that most artists have been listening to trance. So the music changes with them. I can name Klinik, Negative Format, IC 434, Implant just to name a few. Their are prolly a lot of other bands getting this trancy sound. VNV Nation? Headscan? ever noticed?

Klink, Negative Format, IC 434, implant play some sort of trance? Tell me more, I'm interested in pop songs with a trance musical base. I never heard of the above 4 groups. Trance music is excellent for pop.

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by ilvisintetic
Sure you know bands who began making synthpop and finished making hard rock or EBM, or bands who made gothic rock and now they make synthpop.

One of these bands is Blind Passengers. They made synthpop at first, very sweet. They began to introduce guitars and after they sound aggressive, it sounds like NIN.

oh...I know of one that was really a big disappointment for me, but I guess some like it...you wouldn't be able to tell by all the used CDs of theirs I find at the record stores...so who is this band I'm talking about?

The Hunger

Remember them? Their first album I thought was awesome. Even covered a song of theirs when I used to be in an industrial/synthpop band back in '93. Now though...uhm...they do rock songs. Big big change. Doesn't sound ANYTHING like their first album...which had a lot of electronic sounds in their songs.

[~jag]

change is constant ... you hear listeners saying they want something new and then crying out; "don't change"

looking to a musician stand point, i think change/experimentation is a good opportunity for growth and perhaps the discovery of new strengths... plus new sounds for us listeners :P

personally, i love synthpop, but i can't listen to just synthpop all the time (*o m gosh what am i saying*), perhaps it is better to say, i cannot listen to one particular brand of synthpop all the time... some days require more attitude ;) and bless the band that can bridge a number of listening moods

[~marco_spn]

Originally posted by NoirTech

Doesn't sound ANYTHING like their first album...which had a lot of electronic sounds in their songs.

Although that album was a very weird one too! About 50% synthpop, and the other half ebm/industrial. Like they couldn't make up their minds while writing it. :)

'Tonight' is very good, I think I'll play it now.

[~ilvisintetic]

another change: Elektric Music, the Karl Bartos(Kraftwerk) band. In 1993 they play synthpop, some tracks sounds like Kraftwerk. In 1998 they play brit-pop, like Oasis, Blur, with bass, guitars and acoustic percussion.

[7red7]

I guess in the end, a change can work to an advatnage for some bands, and help to lose fans with others...In any case, as long as the music is still solid, and sounds good, I tend to stick around and support my favorite bands no mater which way they turn :)

[NoirTech]

Originally posted by marco_spn


Although that album was a very weird one too! About 50% synthpop, and the other half ebm/industrial. Like they couldn't make up their minds while writing it. :)

'Tonight' is very good, I think I'll play it now.

I totally agree. It was a strange album...and it DID seem like they couldn't make up their mind as to what type of band they wanted to be. I saw them in Tucson, AZ live around '96 or so, and the only songs they played out of the first album where the ebm/industrial ones, since most of their set was the rock style they went into. I really enjoyed that first album. The synthpopish songs were really good in my opinion.

[~Hajas]

Originally posted by Human Clone
U2 trying to endear themselves to the dance crowd with the album "POP" with horrible songs like "Discotheque". Also Bowie's Industrial offering "Outside" produced by Trent Reznor (great album: Afraid of Americans and Hearts Filthy Lesson. I thought both of these albums were a total change in their previous sound.

hey friend, do you already heard the full album? :)

is a really great album, only "Pop" is dance style, teh rest is fantastic. "Please" is one of my all time U2 tracks.

Cheers from Rio,

Freddy

[~ElectroJunk]

Klink, Negative Format, IC 434, implant play some sort of trance? Tell me more, I'm interested in pop songs with a trance musical base. I never heard of the above 4 groups. Trance music is excellent for pop.

Klinik released in 1998 a CD. That was going pretty much towards the Psy. With the new release on hands I can't be sure what the new material would sound like.

With Negative Format its well known it has this trancy sound. Listening to the recent samples (still can't order Static EP) you can indeed say: its trance :) Alex from NF also has a track from Systematiq on mp3.com. Worth checking out.

Geert de Wilde of IC 434 had this side project called Temesta. Can be compared with systematiq.

And offcourse implant: 2 CD's. The recent ones :p

About the trance in pop. I don't care. Aslong as I can dance to it and like to listen to it. I don't mind :p