Middle East Crises SOLUTION!

[~Tal`liyne]

I don't know about everyone else here, but I'm sick and tired of this continually fighting in the Mid-East over ancient lands and ancient claims! It is never going to end? Arrhhgggg!!!

I think if I had absolute power if only for an instant, that I would tell every one in Israel and the Palestinian territories that they have 24 hours to get out as that ancient land would be no longer accessible to humankind! All men, women, and children would have be relocated to another place on the globe, with assistance of course! It would be a -NO MAN LAND- and those who refuse to leave would be forcibly removed! This is the only feasible solution (in my eyes) to stop the fighting and killing, other than to destroy the land so that it is inhospitable to ALL LIFE! If it belongs to no one then there will be no "it belongs to me" argument! There would be no more claims if there were no more land to obcess over!

What do you guys think?

[NoirTech]

Man...I know this thread is gonna turn ugly.
I just have one question on your post though. When you say make it a "no man land"...how exactly would this be accomplished? You mean, like destroying the city via a nuclear weapon? Just curious. Keep in mind all the religious land marks there.
Once again...I see this thread turning bad pretty soon. hehehe. Just a heads up. We have a lot of very opinionated people here.

[~Tal`liyne]

Hi Noir,

I know this thread is going to turn ugly but I think it has to be said! All groups have a vaild claim to the land, but as long as people live there, they are going to fight over land, religions, who deserves to live there more, etc.! I just sick of all the fighting and needless hurt! As far as -NO MAN'S LAND- Nuking it would be the really...really last resort! I propose more like a zoning off like a museum...SACRED to all, but no one can live there. Visiting would be allowed to pay your sacrilidges and honour between certain hours and after that you would have to leave! That way the land can be preserved and the fighting would stop (I hope)!

This thread is not meant to offend anyone, and if it does, I kindly extend my apology to you in advance! I'm just perturbed and peeved at all the FIGHTING and MURDER! Will we never learn?

DM says it best with their song - People are People-
excerpt:
"People are people..so why should it be?
That you and I should get along so awefully!"

"So we are different colours and different creeds..
Different people have different needs..."

"It's obvious you hate me though I've done nothing
wrong...
I haven't even met you, so what could I have done"

"I can't understand...what makes a man hate another
man.....Help me understand........."


P.S. People, we have more important things to worry about other than HATE!! Come on now, it's petty already!!!


BE AT PEACE! Nam`arie...

________________

Tal`liyne

[~noseeum]

The only solution I see is to educate the children of the Israelites and Palestinians not hating each other. By the way the adults are lost by now because they are full of hate which cannot be "driven out" of them anymore. So you have to care for the children. It shouldn't be done by their parents of course.

I know that the US-Americans started a project similar to that what I stated before. Teenagers of both nations should play basketball, soccer, go to cinema... in other words: what kids usually to do in that age. It worked pretty well when they weren't back home. But when they returned to their home country the relationships broke up again because of the cultural barriers that exists there.

Nevertheless I think this a good start to solve the problem when it is done consequently.

[~darnocany]

Originally posted by noseeum
The only solution I see is to educate the children of the Israelites and Palestinians not hating each other. By the way the adults are lost by now because they are full of hate which cannot be "driven out" of them anymore. So you have to care for the children. It shouldn't be done by their parents of course.

I know that the US-Americans started a project similar to that what I stated before. Teenagers of both nations should play basketball, soccer, go to cinema... in other words: what kids usually to do in that age. It worked pretty well when they weren't back home. But when they returned to their home country the relationships broke up again because of the cultural barriers that exists there.

Nevertheless I think this a good start to solve the problem when it is done consequently.

That would be nice. It would be nice if the Palestinians started teaching their children anything other than how to be suicide bombers. Nothing will change, not till they love their children more than they hate the Israelites.

[~PTInc]

Originally posted by NoirTech
We have a lot of very opinionated people here.

Like me!!!!!!!! ::rips shirt off::

One. Arafat has to die. Nothing will ever be accomplished while that hatemonger is still in power.

Two. ¤¤¤¤ the Palestinians. No one made a claim for that land down there until the Zionist movement in between the two world wars. When Britain finally granted Israel to the Jews... after two thousand years of persecution, they embraced the land and fixed it up. They did such a good job of it that Jerusalem is one of the richest cities in the world, and Israel, one of the richest lands.

Three. Enter all the dumb¤¤¤¤ Muslims poor as can be in all the surrounding lands scratching their heads as to why their land sucks so hard. They come to the conclusion that instead of working hard like the Jews in their own land.... they would rather ride the coat tails of Israel and asked for a Palestinian state.

Four. Israel said "No."

Five. Palestinians started all this gueriilla warfare cuz you guessed it, they are all poor and that is all they can afford.

Six. America doesnt tolerate the little ¤¤¤¤'s doing... especially to the Jewish people that did not warrant it. So what do us evil American's do? We help out our friends with a plethora of weapons.

Seven. Israel now has all these big tanks etc etc to ward off the Palestinians. So as you can imagine... if a Palestinian sends over a rocket powered gernade and kills a handful.... An Iraeli tank will fire its cannon right at them and take a dozen. Many people think that is wrong, but what do you expect? Its the only way they can defend themselves.

Eight. So in the end, I believe that the Jewish people deserve that small piece of land that they have worked so hard on for. They built that city and nurtured it to prosperity. Its theirs and Ill be damned if they have to share it with those towel jockeys. And although I feel bad for the dumbass Muslims that have to live in the ¤¤¤¤holes that are Jordan and Lebenonn and all that crap, they are not gonna get sympathy from me by bombing innocent people going about their everyday lives. ¤¤¤¤ Palestine.

[~Tal`liyne]

Hey PTInc,

I see you have stated your defense, but we must understand that the land does not only belong to two groups. Over the millenuims many groups have staked their claim to the land which at times was fruitful and prosperous and at other times it was a barren wasteland of a desert! Israel is a plethora of different peoples and religious followers....not just those of the Jewish faith! The country is home to Christians, Muslims, Jews, and MANY, MANY others. If two major fractions continually war with one another, then when do all the others have their say! It can't be this way, too many innocent people -ON BOTH SIDES- are suffering for the actions of a few in power! We must remember many people of different faiths, creeds, races, religions, social status', etc., etc.,....(the list goes on and on) have suffered and have been persecuted throughout the dawning of history for one thing or another! That does not justify HATE! Hate breeds hate.... where ever it comes from. I feel that even in the last few decades that land may have been restored somewhat to its former glory by some very hard-working people! The fact remains though, that as long as it exists there will never have peace! LOOK at history! Not just this century past, but the history from times long past and you will see this land has never been truly at peace..for thousands of years now! It must be purged from the bloodshed, and the way to do that is to make it sacred and off-limits to any who would want to make it a home! That may seem drastic, but drastic measures are sometimes needed for the good of all! If one group can restore a land to fruitfulness, then that ingenuity can be incorporated in many other places around the globe. Everyone needs a homeland..true..but let's make the planet our HOMELAND and not just a single land or region. WE ARE ALL HUMANS...LET US START ACTING LIKE IT FOR ONCE!! Forget the HATE...forget the MURDER....forget the DIFFERENCES!!! We could achieve great things as a species if we could only put the trivial and primitive pettiness aside! We have already done a lot, but think of the things -we could accomplish-....if only?????....

BE AT PEACE! Nam`arie

_________________

Tal`liyne

[7red7]

The statement I'm going to make is a dismal one, but I must be honest with myself and everyone else...World peace in general is a pipe dream and will never happen...As long as there people that don't like other people for everything they encompass, we'll experience hate and prejudice...You have to accept everyone for who they are regardless, and give them their due space on the panet...Hate begets hate and so on, so if everyone really wants to start the trend in their home town, do it like this...Tomorrow when you leave your house keep in mind that everyone (everyone) is your brother and sister no matter who they are or what they look like...Treat them as family...It's not much, but it's a start...

Yeah, I'm a big hippy at heart :D

[~KissTheStar]

Hey ... in my opinion the gloves need to come off and let them fight it out. Last one standing wins. It is going to happen sooner or later. But that is just my simpleton mind and approach. Direct is best.


~Craig

[~Tal`liyne]

Originally posted by 7red7
The statement I'm going to make is a dismal one, but I must be honest with myself and everyone else...World peace in general is a pipe dream and will never happen...As long as there people that don't like other people for everything they encompass, we'll experience hate and prejudice...You have to accept everyone for who they are regardless, and give them their due space on the panet...Hate begets hate and so on, so if everyone really wants to start the trend in their home town, do it like this...Tomorrow when you leave your house keep in mind that everyone (everyone) is your brother and sister no matter who they are or what they look like...Treat them as family...It's not much, but it's a start...

Yeah, I'm a big hippy at heart :D

Hey 7,

If more thought and acted like you then we would be on our way!

BE AT PEACE! Nam`arie!

_______________

Tal`liyne

[~cliffwalk]

Sadly I agree.

World Peace is a pipe dream. All we can do as individuals is to not hate and teach our children not to hate. For any reason. Don't even hate someone who hates. Don't judge someone who hates. Don't hate.

Inherently broken because people have and are eventually corrupted by power. However, prosperity is human nature, it's a double-edged sword.

Enter Socialism. Great in theory. Sort of forgets that it also has a masked basis around power.

So.... the most discplined minds, such as the Budhists, recognized this and retreated into their own minds... "Nirvana"

Will we, as a race, evolve past this? I believe so, eventually....

Is it a slow process with no immediate solutions? Yes. So we work at the Micro level.

Like it or not doing something like knocking off Arafat will do less than one would assume. He'd just be another dead guy replaced by another person with a "Vision" which will be inherently flawed.

(Repeat... for thousands and thousands of years, improving every day but no one can see it because the change is so small)

Dave

[7red7]

Thank you for the kind words and support Tal`Liyne :)

And Dave is right on as well...Just don't hate, don't teach it...

The world over follows a lot of the U.S.'s examples, and likewise we follow some of theirs, however being that we are an envied country, it would be great if we were the ones that start the chain reaction and get everyone else on board...True it's a slow process, but eventually everyone will come to realize you can survive without hate in your life...Trust me, I'm a firm believer in the fact that a little drama now and then keeps life from becoming routine and boring, but I believe I can still have an interesting life without hate involved....Sorry for the ramble, just venting some opinions :-)

[~PTInc]

Originally posted by cliffwalk
Inherently broken because people have and are eventually corrupted by power. However, prosperity is human nature, it's a double-edged sword.

Enter Socialism. Great in theory. Sort of forgets that it also has a masked basis around power.


Like it or not doing something like knocking off Arafat will do less than one would assume. He'd just be another dead guy replaced by another person with a "Vision" which will be inherently flawed.

First off... socialism is for sissies.

Second... I never said that Arafat had to be knocked off. But as long as he is in power, I dont see much being accomplished in the Middle East.

Third off... world peace would suck really bad. It would bring about the homogenization of all our cultures and all in all... muke us really boring as a race. Has anyone read Ishmael or Story of B by Daniel Quinn? If so... Im sure you know what Im talking about. If not... you amy wanna look into reading it. ::two thumbs::

[~cliffwalk]

Yes, Socialism is for sissies in the manner in which we've implemented it in modern times. It's an ideal that human nature cannot properly support... yet. We're too weak and too unevolved as a race.

My point about Arafat was that I hear (not particularly from you but from a consensus in my day-to-day) WAY too many "Silver Bullet" theories. The world as a community doesn't spend very much time appreciating the power of the process vs. single insignificant acts. I just wanted a reason to make that point so I used your reference to getting rid of Arafat.

As far as culutral homogenization. I have NOT read any Daniel Quinn however I've read quite a bit of modern philosophy with the same opinions. I've read both sides of that argument and I feel it's somewhat of a inevitability?

-A mixed marriage caused cultural homogenization. Bad thing?
-America is all sorts of culutrally mixed (based mainly on European cultures). ARE the unique cultures diluted? Hell yes, they are. Is it an entirely bad thing? No.

I'm not afraid of that particular issue --- it is, once again, an eventual casualty of evolution if we don't blow the place up before we evolve to that point.

You may have angles I don't get... I'll try to read some Quinn... but culture homgenization seems to be a very very very trivial worry to me vs. NOT working to unite as a world community.

American History will prove to be the Case Study, to be honest. Like it or not America isn't only a country, it's an experiment, and it's one that has had relative success over the course of 250 years. 250 years is a very short period of time. A lot about how to address world problems lie in how we're addressing them in America.

Dave

[~PTInc]

I wouldn't say America has homogenized. We have distinct sub cultures that for the most part have not blurred all too much thru marrige. And when you think about it... although inter racial marriges do take place... they are not encouraged.

And on a side note... it is the reason we are such a violent culture. When you get a melting pot of so many different types of people... friction will ensue. This is the reason CHicago has the highest murder rate per capita. (we have the highest numbers of not only blacks but hispanics... Poles... Asians.... You live in CHIcago Dave so you get the idea of what I'm getting at.) ANd on another side note... in a sick way... Im kinda proud of our crime rate cuz to me it means that we Chicagoans are insistant in keeping our identity. (if no one has noticed yet... I am a firm believer that Chicago is the best city in the world.) ::shrugs::

On the Quinn subject... check out "Ishmael" or "The Story of B"

And for everyone here that likes reading books... the cheapest way to get them is Amazon's used section. Quinn's hardcover books which retail at 24.95 can be found for 5$ plus 3$ shipping. Take my word for it. I bought dozens of books from Amazon's used bin saving hundreds (HUNDREDS) of dollers!!!

[~PTInc]

If everyone was the same there would be no crime.

Example. Germany is something like 99% German. That is ultimate national unity. Everyone is the same. Hence Ill bet their crime rate is near nada.

US is mix and matched with different nationalities, religions, cultures, languages etc etc... and as you know we have one of the highest crime rates in the world.

But despite what Dave said... We aren't the first to try this "experiment."

The Soviet Union was mix and matched with its Iron Curtain covering dozens of Eastern European nationalities... as you should know... its failed due in large part to the lack of harmony between all the lands.

Austria-Hungary Empire before WWI encompassed about a dozen different cultures/nationalities... ultimately... it also failed due to the thirst for national identity amoungst all the different peoples.


SIgh... Im just gonna copy out of the book now. Bear with me.

"When nonhuman animals battle, the winners generally take over the loser' territory or mates. Tribal warfare doesn't work that way. Tribes living in a given area are more or less constatnly in a state of low-level war with each other, but when Tribe X attacks Tribe Y, it doesn't ypically take over its territory or its mates; later, after inflicting a certain amount of damage, it typically turns around and goes home. Berfore long, typically, Tribe Y returns the favor, attacking Tribe X, inflicting a certain amount of damage, then going home. This relationship of more or less permanent low level hostility between X and Y isn't special. The same relation exists between X adn Z and Y and Z- and these these have similarly hostile relations with the neighbors around them.

Charecteristically, the people of these tribes don't think of themselves as having a "problem" with their neighbors; charecteristically, no one thinks there's anything wrong or reprehensible about this way of life. Also charecteristically, the poeple of Tribe X don't imagine that their life would be sweet if one day they went out and killed off all their neighbors; they know there are neighbors beyond their neighbors, and these distant neighbors would be no friendlier that their near ones. It's in fact really not so bad. Years go by in which X doesn't attack Y and Y doesn't attck X, and in these years relations between them are typically very cordial.

What is working here? Why is this system so successful that it's still around after hundreds of thousands of years?

What's working is that cultural identities and cultural borders are being preserved. When X attacks Y, it doesn't annex it. It doesn't destroy Y's identity or erase its borders, it just inflicts a certain amount of damage, then turns around and goes home. It's no different when Y attacks X. In other words, every attack serves as a demonstration and affirmation of identity to both sides. "We're X and you're Y, and here's the border in between us. We cross it at our own risk and you cross it at yours. We know you are strong and healthy. Every once in a while, we're going to make sure you know we're strong and healthy too. We know that if we mess with you, we'll suffer. We want you to know that if you mess with us, you'll suffer too." "


Israel/Palestine are fighting. They are preserving their religious beliefs and promoting religious diversity.

FIghting in the end preserves cultural diversity. It has for tens of thousands of years. Unfortunately... that system may be underminded by the advent of weapons of mass destruction. Which is why Pakistan and India must fight a conventional war and not annihilate each other. That would break the rules of this system.

[~cheetah]

It seems to me that religion is at the forefront of all (most) of the world's problems. Has anyone else noticed this?

[~PTInc]

Originally posted by Tal`liyne
forget the DIFFERENCES!!! We could achieve great things as a species if we could only put the trivial and primitive pettiness aside! We have already done a lot, but think of the things -we could accomplish-....if only?????....

Forget the differences?!?!? All you utopian idealists have to understand that... what you are lobbying for... will not... and can not happen. Hence the adjective "utopian." Not to forget that a world you are describing would be so utterly utterly boring.

Differences make the world go 'round.

[~PTInc]

Originally posted by cheetah
It seems to me that religion is at the forefront of all (most) of the world's problems. Has anyone else noticed this?

Probably all problems indirectly at least.

::shaking fist at sky @ Jesus:: jk

ANd if its not religious beliefs... its the lack of religious beliefs. ie everyone's problems with Americans... Communists... Facists...

[~cheetah]

There's just way too many excuses for people to be divided. The best thing I can think of is to teach your children tolerance and to be a positive influence to everyone you meet. Unfortunately, there will always be people in the world who strive to create chaos. I think somebody already made that statement so I'm letting you know I'm with you.

[7red7]

Seeing as this thread is begining to get indepth, I figured I'd throw this out as we are getting on the topic of religion and hate...

Regardless of what anyone may think, or feel about this...Facts are facts...People in any religion around the world more than likely think very highly of their said religion...Thats perfectly alright too, as it's good to take pride in what you belong to...Although (and a lot of religious people tend to do this) when you put your own personal religion above all others and actually frown upon them for not doing as you do, thats hate and prejudice...

I agree that the bulk of the major world military problems ultimately lies in religious beliefs...It's sad really if you think about it...The same thing that makes millions of people happy everyday is also the biggest factor in a lot of us not getting along :(

[~cheetah]

It's very sad that something that provides so much hope and sustenance can also breed so much mistrust and hypocrisy.

[~PTInc]

::shakes fist at Jesus::

[~cheetah]

*LOL* You're hilarious PTInc!!! Can you hear any thunder or see any lightning outside your house? Darth Vader does a lot of fist shaking too. I think I'm seeing a connection here. Hmmmmm.....

[~PTInc]

::Starts packing bags with reckless abandon fearing the retaliation of vengeful Jesus::

[~cheetah]

YOU WON'T BE NEEDING ANY BAGS WHERE YOU'RE GOING BUDDY!!! HA HA HA ......Or if you'd prefer, Phoenix is almost as hot as hell right now.

[~Never Worship]

Originally posted by PTInc
[b]I wouldn't say America has homogenized. We have distinct sub cultures that for the most part have not blurred all too much thru marrige. And when you think about it... although inter racial marriges do take place... they are not encouraged.[b]

What makes you think that interracial relationships are not encouraged?

It’s promoted every where you look these days. Movies, magazine ads, billboards, TV commercials. Blacks with whites and other racial combinations are suggested and basically used as the logo for ‘celebrating diversity’, which is ironic in itself considering breeding with other races is leading to the destruction of individual groups and defeating the whole point of diversity.

Bah

= /

[~PTInc]

Originally posted by Never Worship


What makes you think that interracial relationships are not encouraged?

It’s promoted every where you look these days. Movies, magazine ads, billboards, TV commercials. Blacks with whites and other racial combinations are suggested and basically used as the logo for ‘celebrating diversity’, which is ironic in itself considering breeding with other races is leading to the destruction of individual groups and defeating the whole point of diversity.

I dont think that advertisements that showcase the typical image of what I'd like to call the Noah's arc angle (one representative of each race) encourages cultural homogenization... it is simply trying to tap each and every demographic.

But that aside... for the most part... I cant imagine any of your parents encouraging you to date someone clearly out of your nationality spectrum.

Try to imagine your mom saying "Oh honey... why can't you just come home with a handsome Puerto Rican man/women" or a black man/women... Latino... etc etc... I can't imagine such encouragement... ( and no Im not a racist... so don't get up in arms)

[~cliffwalk]

Families traditionally don't encourage interacial relationships. ESPCIALLY when you consider, for instance, like a Hispanic marrying a Jew. Lots of fricition. However conversions help.

A Muslim or Hindu marrying outside of that religion, uhh.. yeah... right... MAYBE, but it's rare. It's discouraged.

Why? The east, in general, has fears of the Western influence on their bloodline. To most eastern cultures we are both evil as well as very ignorant to our own spirituality.

I personally love our country with all of its diversity. But once again, what I think is the best thing of them all is that we are slowly learning to live amongst each other, with cultural differences... AND yes, on the neogitiation table as part of that process, is some of purity of our own cultures.

Once again, I'm OK with that. Cultures blend.

At one point we all decended from geographically dispursed tribes.

Eskimos and Native Americans: SAME ANTHROPOLOGICAL ROOTS AS ASIANS!! They are, by blood, the migrated brothers and sisters of the Northern Asian cultures.

Blend it. We'll be fine. We're less fine when we fight it. War is a waste of human energy.

However... do I believe that it will go away in my lifetime or even the lifetime of my memory? No.

Dave

[~Tal`liyne]

Originally posted by PTInc


Forget the differences?!?!? All you utopian idealists have to understand that... what you are lobbying for... will not... and can not happen. Hence the adjective "utopian." Not to forget that a world you are describing would be so utterly utterly boring.

Differences make the world go 'round.


I am not by any means lost in a utopian dream! However, I am hopeful that people can be amicable with one another!

As for the "DIFFERENCES", I was refering to the difference that people use in a negative context to divide and promote hated, loathing, and ultimately violence! Differences are good and it generates diveristy as long as individuals are tolerable to their fellow person!

The world would not be a boring place if we as a species put aside our negative devices! It would just mean that we would have a better opportunity to understand, learn and engage with each other! Then people could concentrate on other positive aspects of Humanity, etc.!


"EVEN THE SMALLEST PERSON CAN CHANGE THE COURSE OF THE FUTURE." (IN A POSITIVE LIGHT, OF COURSE)

That may be a utopian idea, but that's the way I view things!

BE AT PEACE! Nam`arie

_________________

Tal`liyne

[~Tal`liyne]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PTInc
[b]


But that aside... for the most part... I cant imagine any of your parents encouraging you to date someone clearly out of your nationality spectrum.

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Hey,
My parents encourage me to choose the person that I love. All other things are -non-importante- ( as far as race, religion, social status, creed, etc.). As long as they are a good person with a good personality that's all the really matters!

The races will blend ....Eventually....
May not in our lifetime, or many lifetimes after us, but it will happen when our minds elevate to higher entropy!

Dating "someone clearly out of your nationality spectrum" in not a flaw and maybe may be a common view from times past, but "This is not Kansas anymore, Dorothy!", and I for one refuse to think that way! I'm all for people liking and loving who they choose without all the barriers! It's true that many in the world may still view this stance with concerns or may be against it, but those views will eventually be dissuaded with the passage of time for most poeple! Like I said, maybe not in our lifetime, but eventually!

BE AT PEACE! Nam`arie!

A-Si I-dh`uath `U-Orthor! `U or le A `U or nin!

_______________


Tal`liyne

[~PTInc]

Originally posted by Tal`liyne

The races will blend ....Eventually....
May not in our lifetime, or many lifetimes after us, but it will happen when our minds elevate to higher entropy!

Dating "someone clearly out of your nationality spectrum" in not a flaw and maybe may be a common view from times past, but "This is not Kansas anymore, Dorothy!", and I for one refuse to think that way! I'm all for people liking and loving who they choose without all the barriers! It's true that many in the world may still view this stance with concerns or may be against it, but those views will eventually be dissuaded with the passage of time for most poeple! Like I said, maybe not in our lifetime, but eventually!


THe races will never blend. THe fact that you live in AMerica probably skews your perspective.

A. We've been on this planet for quite some time now... and little has blended.

B. Nationalism wouldnt allow it. To become a German citizen... you must be german. To be a Japanese citizen... Japanese. America is one of the very very few with open admissions. Try to get citizenship anywhere else and you will see what I am talking about.

C. And dont lecture me on the new matrimonial customs of the 21st century. Cause like I said... your preference on picking a partner is your's alone and still not too prominant even in our American way of thinking.

and damnit... no Lord of the Rings quotes allowed!!

[~Tal`liyne]

Originally posted by PTInc


THe races will never blend. THe fact that you live in AMerica probably skews your perspective.

A. We've been on this planet for quite some time now... and little has blended.

B. Nationalism wouldnt allow it. To become a German citizen... you must be german. To be a Japanese citizen... Japanese. America is one of the very very few with open admissions. Try to get citizenship anywhere else and you will see what I am talking about.

C. And dont lecture me on the new matrimonial customs of the 21st century. Cause like I said... your preference on picking a partner is your's alone and still not too prominant even in our American way of thinking.

and damnit... no Lord of the Rings quotes allowed!!

PT.....

Does my LoTR Sindarin bother you......Haaaaaa!!

I. I don't live in America..at least not full time!! I'm not even American! So -I KNOW- that my perspective isn't skewed because it's not -the only place- where the races interwine love!

II. As I said maybe not in our lifetime, or many lifetimes after us, but eventually....Eventually as we grow as a species! In the past certain elements like limited transport, trade, etc. have prevented this, but when things become stream-lined it will be easier! Of course, there will always be a small fraction of separatists, but that's due to be expected! True that some countries are very nationalistic, but that's here and now! Many laws change with the passage of time! You know it's true! Just look at your American History.... and don't tell me that you really believe that
America is the only place this happens so widespread! That's untrue! I have lived in so many places around the globe, and I know that's not the case everywhere! I'm an international babe!

III. I'm not lecturing you on anything! You are free to state your opinions as always. This is a forum to express ideas and opinions, it's not a tolatarian regime! I will not apologize for having a FREE MIND and ...wakey..wakey.. I'm not the only person to carry on like this! Like I previously stated, it may not be a mainstream practice, but it's not that minute either!

IV. I have four passports and two resident cards, one of which is a US greencard, so I can say that the USA isn't the only open-door society!

For someone who is a product of a racial blend..you sure seem resolute that this sort of hypothesis will never take place! Huhhhmmm........

Oh yeah and.....

He amar prestar aen! Han mathon ne chae!...just teasing you love! Hahahaaaaa!

BE AT PEACE! Nam`arie!!

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Tal`liyne

[~PTInc]

Originally posted by Tal`liyne


PT.....

Does my LoTR Sindarin bother you......Haaaaaa!!

I. I don't live in America..at least not full time!! I'm not even American! So -I KNOW- that my perspective isn't skewed because it's not -the only place- where the races interwine love!

II. As I said maybe not in our lifetime, or many lifetimes after us, but eventually....Eventually as we grow as a species! In the past certain elements like limited transport, trade, etc. have prevented this, but when things become stream-lined it will be easier! Of course, there will always be a small fraction of separatists, but that's due to be expected! True that some countries are very nationalistic, but that's here and now! Many laws change with the passage of time! You know it's true! Just look at your American History.... and don't tell me that you really believe that
America is the only place this happens so widespread! That's untrue! I have lived in so many places around the globe, and I know that's not the case everywhere! I'm an international babe!

III. I'm not lecturing you on anything! You are free to state your opinions as always. This is a forum to express ideas and opinions, it's not a tolatarian regime! I will not apologize for having a FREE MIND and ...wakey..wakey.. I'm not the only person to carry on like this! Like I previously stated, it may not be a mainstream practice, but it's not that minute either!

IV. I have four passports and two resident cards, one of which is a US greencard, so I can say that the USA isn't the only open-door society!

For someone who is a product of a racial blend..you sure seem resolute that this sort of hypothesis will never take place! Huhhhmmm........



Did i even mention that in this thread? Heh...

Anyway... this topic is killing me... so.. Ill make this breif.

And on the subject of evolving as a species... I doubt it... we will blow ourselves up first quite sadly. And as always... I place blame on Jesus.

Any country with an open door policy has a chance of some racial homogenization... but the rest of the world (most of the world) will not.

Im done... no more. :brickwall:

[~Tal`liyne]

Originally posted by PTInc


Did i even mention that in this thread? Heh...

Anyway... this topic is killing me... so.. Ill make this breif.

And on the subject of evolving as a species... I doubt it... we will blow ourselves up first quite sadly. And as always... I place blame on Jesus.

Any country with an open door policy has a chance of some racial homogenization... but the rest of the world (most of the world) will not.

Im done... no more. :brickwall:


That's alright! As I said time will tell our fate! The debate was interesting! You should travel more! I'm always on a plane off to some remote or not-so-remote corner of the world! Au revoir mon ami!

BE AT PEACE! Nam`arie!

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Tal`liyne